OK! So Van Damme is actually bad ass!

[Tricky]

All his films have almost the same picture on the box,van dammes head in the foreground,with a massive fireball & some helicopters in the background,bit like seagal another dent in van damme is the fact he sported that permed mullet in "hard target" *shudders* His films are strangely watchable though,if ones on TV (universal soldier tonight uk folks) il end up watching it

[Neil]

Total fights 18 Wins 17 Wins by KO 17 Losses 1 Draws 0 No contests 0 Pretty impressive really! 17 out of 18 KOs! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Van_Damme I don't recall ever having to depend on a ref during a streetfight. Or fighting clean for that matter. Boxing or any martial arts IS NOT streetfighting and should NEVER be compared. Other than the fact there is violence involved. And it is wishful thinking to believe a martial artist will follow a code of conduct during a fight. Martial Arts are about building reflex reactions. Doing the same thing over and over and over again until the reaction is automatic. When I was doing Karate a friend of mine through a joke punch at me and I literally did not think and block it. I block it hard and actually hurt him resulting in quite a nice bruise on his arm as well. Now, as you say street fighting is a different animal to a 'controlled' martial arts fight. BUT, reflexes and speed and being at least some what used to a situation are very important... That said, I suspect your average boxer would fair far better in a street fight that your average Karate expert. Maybe your average Judo guy would do best of all?