1 weapon to use In zombie apocolypse

[Publius]

Ok, So the consensus seems to be that the .22 round has a significant chance of bouncing off the thick bone of the forehead, although if the round does penetrate the internal ricochets would doom the ghoul. I'm not a hunter (I just know that .22LR penetrates cardboard boxes and soda cans pretty reliably ), but I think you're right. The .22's energy is marginal to begin with and drops off rapidly, so your chances of success depend a lot on range and angle of impact. On forums that talk about varmint hunting, consensus seems to be that a .22LR makes a fine squirrel gun, but will not reliably put down, say, coyotes. At extremely close range you'll get the internal ricochet effect you describe, but at longer ranges you may well find that the round has just enough energy to penetrate the skull if you hit straight on or at a thin part, but not enough energy to do much damage inside.

[Skippy911sc]

I will see about a test later this week with my .22LR. I will take several water jugs in a row and shoot them, to see how far the round will penetrate. I will use the standard Remington bulk ammo. I will post agin in this post with some results.

[Publius]

I will see about a test later this week with my .22LR. I will take several water jugs in a row and shoot them, to see how far the round will penetrate. I will use the standard Remington bulk ammo. I will post agin in this post with some results. That'd be interesting! I just saw a few videos on Youtube where a guy used a .22LR rifle to shatter coconuts at 25, 50, and 100 yards, and a .22LR revolver to shatter coconuts at 30 yards. He also shot a pig head at 25 yards with the rifle and penetrated the skull. http://www.youtube.com/user/nightstalkerbob These tests (especially the pig head one) give me some hope that with an accurate rifle and good shot placement, you'd have good results against zombies at 25-50 yards.

[Wyldwraith]

Hmm, If you want to use water jugs you could either put something pressed up against the jug that's of the approximate thickness/hardness of the skull, or you could fill the jugs with something that might help you as an indicator of the penetration you're getting against resistance. Publius: I'm completely in agreement. From everything I've experienced, read and heard from others I just couldn't put my life in the metaphorical hands of a .22 There's just too much danger of insufficient penetration at the range I'd want to be at for me to consider it a trustworthy weapon for this purpose. All of this has definitely shown me the light about rifles though. I think it'd be a good idea for a variety of reasons to get over my issues with them and develop a proficiency. By the way: When I go to the range I always shoot several silhouettes aiming for headshots. Not because of zombies, but due to the fact that every time you turn around it seems to be getting more and more common for really bad guys to be in body armor, and if someone ever invades my home and tries one of the classic movie cliches like "Put the gun down or your mom gets it" I want another option besides surrendering my weapon. My stepfather and I have discussed several times the benefit of the fact that after dark the two individuals in the house with instant access to and proficiency with firearms are on opposite sides of the home. Unless there are several home invaders (a much more unlikely occurrence than a solo act or a perpetrator with a partner I feel we have a better chance that way of one of us getting to our weapon(s) in time to respond effectively. Don't get me wrong, I love my family, but no way am I placing all of us at the mercy of some armed psycho who kicked in our door on the strength of his word that if I give up my gun he won't hurt any of us. My mom's first marriage was quite nearly lethal for her, and she's made it crystal clear over the years that she expects me and my brother to do everything in our power not to end up at the mercy of a human predator like she did.

[JasonEdw]

A baseball bat because of 10 reasons: 1)requires no reloading or foraging for new ammo 2)won't get stuck in something if you miss or won't get stuck in corpse while the others are bearing down on you 3)it's quiet 4)requires no fuel 5)lightweight 6)one doesn't need to be an expert to wield one 7)it's common to find or to find again 8)can be used to hold open doors or be used as a lever 9)comes in wood or metal, depending on the survivor's taste 10)works pretty good on the living as well!

[AcesandEights]

A baseball bat because of 10 reasons: 1)requires no reloading or foraging for new ammo 2)won't get stuck in something if you miss or won't get stuck in corpse while the others are bearing down on you 3)it's quiet 4)requires no fuel 5)lightweight 6)one doesn't need to be an expert to wield one 7)it's common to find or to find again 8)can be used to hold open doors or be used as a lever 9)comes in wood or metal, depending on the survivor's taste 10)works pretty good on the living as well! 11) And breaks very easily* *Sponsored by the Lead Pipe Veterans For Truth Committee

[Yojimbo]

A baseball bat because of 10 reasons: 1)requires no reloading or foraging for new ammo Nothing against Jason, but the more I hear this mantra about blades or clubs not needing reloading, the more I blame Max Brooks and his tounge-in-cheek book that so many are taking as gospel nowdays. Again, the above statement is not meant as a diss on Jason - some of the reasons he lists are very sound. But as Aces points out, a baseball bat - at least the wooden ones - can break. Also, there are only so many swings you get in a given time period before you get exhausted, and the baseball bat requires you to be within grabbing distance of the ghoul - a little too close for my tastes. Jason would be better off with a rifle, even if it was just a .22! And if he runs out of bullets, then he can always use the rifle itself as a bludgeon.

[Shadowofthedead]

a rifle in .357mag/ .38 spl and pistol calibered for the same. two revolvers and a lever action would be my get up. the thread was for one weapon im sporting two calibers capable of being used in two guns. since .38 special rounds can be used in most guns chambered in .357 magum... your amount of ammo possibilities is not as finite as others and there are countless relaoding materials avaible for the two calibers. and also the rifle is rated for 100-150 yards. there is really no need to make a shot any further out than that distance. any shot such as would be a waste of ammo. my rig would consist of: ruger gp 101 .357 magnum or smith and wesson 686 .357 mag. both guns are single action double action. i might carry two of these if permitted. the smith and wesson 686 has a capacity of 7 in the cylinder so one more shot would help. colt single action army cowboy pistol in .357 mag or some replica single action revolver. shooting in single action requires you two be more accurate with your shots seeing how you cant just keep pulling the trigger like you would in double action. some model marlin 1894 or henry lever rifle in .357 magum with a scope possibly. depends on whats available. all these guns use the cartridges stated above. i might carry a magnum research bfr " big freaking revolver" or a smith and wesson 500 in s & w .500 magnum for "BIG" jobs. but i would run out of room on my holster rig and those guns are freaking heavy. you can go into any department store or sporting goods store and find either cartridge. and the foreign stuff is cheap. other weapons include : 2x gerber big rock??? camp knife non serrated gerber gator??? machete (this machete has a razor sharp blade and a saw on the back of the blade.... serrated machete orgasm!!!!) gerber camp axe and steel toed boots. ill be back with more gotta change some break pads

[Staredge]

Baseball bats aren't a bad idea, but sometimes you wanna reach out & touch someone from a distance. Aluminum is the way to go, if just for the weight savings. I like the .38/.357 idea. With the rise of Cowboy Action Shooting (at least in the US), that ammo is liable to found in a lot more locations than some of the other pistol calibers. The SAA argument is perfect. You are slowed down a bit, allowing you to aim. The other side of that is also because of the way you load. No speedloaders.

[Dillinger]

.22LR is a good pick. Pretty quiet, really common cartridge, and just enough to penetrate decayed flesh. I wouldn't want to use it against renegade bikers though. Not enough firepower. But exclusively for zombies, it's a good choice. Plus those Ruger 10/22s have like aftermarket clips that hold like 50 rounds or some ****.

[Shadowofthedead]

.22 lr is a good idea if you have a high velocity load. this would compensate for lack of power with normal loads. my favorite .22 lr load is the remington viper hollow point. at around 7 bucks for 100 rounds its pricey but a heck of a rabbit stopper. its velocity is 1500 fps (feet per second) at muzzle and drops off a little over 1000 fps at under 100 yds. highly accurate as well. ill swear by this round. normal remington golden bullet has enough penetration to kill a deer in one shot. i have the deer as proof or whatever is left of her. i was drunk to but i was about 15-20 yards away from her. she ran a little bit but dropped about 50 yards or less from where i shot her. if a 22 round can pass through the rib cage and hit the heart and lungs in one shot on a deer... im skeptical what the lower powered 22 lr round would do to a human skull. and even in the survival guide it noted that you "might" have to be to close for comfort to pull a shot off on a zombie. i would just look up online for ballistics test videos of a 22lr head shot. assassins are known to carry 22lr silenced weapons and why would a company make a silencer for a walther g-22 22lr semiautomatic rifle if it were not used in this way. up for debate think we should start a "!!!NEW!!!" thread for this debate so as not to clutter fruck it up.

[DjfunkmasterG]

If zombs would take over the and I only had the pick of 1 weapon It would be a chainsaw running around chopping their heads off It would be fun. what would your weapon be? And what do you do when you run out of gas?

[fulci fan]

[Trencher]

Baseballbats are bad if you face hordes of zombies because you will tire yourself out, in hand to hand you need something that can get the work done with a minimun of stress. Like the hammers I showed earlier in the thread, it weights more so you can let the hammer do the job rather than doing it yourself.