Quantum of Solace - Oh Dear! Doesn't bode well for World War Z!

[Neil]

Oh Dear! Looked like whenever an action scene popped up, they decided to give the camera to someone with advanced Parkinsons disease. It's the most diabolical shakey-cam I've ever seen. The film editing was so over-busy, to the point of being beyond pretentious and damn right wanky! I actually groaned out loud a couple of times at how unecessarily busy the editing and shakey cam was, and how it was utterly destroying the action it was trying to purvey! All that fantastically staged action lost because of being in too close and too damn shakey. In short, everything the last film seemed to do so well in the cinematography, this one seemed set on destroying. And the script seemed rather shakey too. How many times did characters seem to know just where to go, and when to go there? And the worlds first self destructing hotel! Will the idea take off do you think? Casino Royal - 9/10 Quantum of Solace - 6/10 If Marc Forster is indeed directing World War Z, I have great concerns! There's a lot of action in there, and I'd hate to see it pi$$ed up the wall because he seemingly just can't handle action scenes!

[MinionZombie]

I think Forster was the wrong director for the job, Campbell is the modern Bond director if you ask me. He can handle the action in the right way, plus get the best out of the actors, and cover the non-fighty parts of the story just fine. 6/10 is a little harsh I'd say, a 7/10 is fair while I definitely agree with 9/10 for Casino Royale. Still, rather Forster than G ... as in Mc. ... And if you survived the shaky-cam of Dead Set (not sure if you've seen it yet though), then you should have been able to deal with QoS. I think QoS is definitely that middle child, it can't live up to the first born, and it's kinda there in the middle as something to do before the third one.

[Neil]

I think Forster was the wrong director for the job, Campbell is the modern Bond director if you ask me. He can handle the action in the right way, plus get the best out of the actors, and cover the non-fighty parts of the story just fine. I think QoS is definitely that middle child, it can't live up to the first born, and it's kinda there in the middle as something to do before the third one. I'll forgive the inferior script, but I can't forgive that diabolical camera work/editing. It's like Forster got carried away with his new film making toys, and forgot he was actually trying to let the audience enjoy/appreciate the ride... I'm quite serious in saying it's the worse camera work I think I've ever seen at the cinema! Completely over-the-top and just plain wanky!

[DjfunkmasterG]

Quantum, was boring garbage that destroyed the big return for James Bond. Casino Royale set the stage for what we thought would be a great come back for everybody's favorite super spy, but QoS took all the good from Casino and just wiped its ass with it and flushed it away. I had to stop watching it after an hour I couldn't take it anymore.

[Trencher]

I have not seen the movie and with your review its dobutfull I ever will because I hate shaky cam!

[Neil]

Quantum, was boring garbage that destroyed the big return for James Bond. Casino Royale set the stage for what we thought would be a great come back for everybody's favorite super spy, but QoS took all the good from Casino and just wiped its ass with it and flushed it away. I had to stop watching it after an hour I couldn't take it anymore. I feel 'garbage' is somewhat strong. It's a mediocre action affair. But the weak script certainly is helped by the over-the-top busy camera work. Quite the opposite in the action scenes

[MinionZombie]

Is QoS "Die Another Day"? Far from it, it's far better than that poo fest, which I enjoyed at the time, but it's just too muggy these days. QoS was far better, it just didn't achieve the impossible task of living up to the huge success of Casino Royale. The shaky cam was too over the top, however I was absolutely gripped during the early action scenes, even gasping at several points, and squinting with that "ooh" face at certain punches of action. If you want Casino Royale, watch Casino Royale, I feel there's too much focus on the previous film. Some focus okay, it is a series and a sequel after all, but chill out a smidge. I've never heard shaky cam be described as "wanky" either.

[Neil]

I've never heard shaky cam be described as "wanky" either. Wanky - Was more a reference to the over-busy, prententious filming style... But, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised, given the results, if the camera man was ******g And the script was rather average! Add in the disjointed directing, a bit of a mess...

[bassman]

I get the feeling that alot of it isn't Forster's fault. The producers probably threw alot of crap his way because he was a first time bond director. Campbell I think they trusted, with Forster I think they sort of got in the way. The guy is a very good director(imo). Maybe this just wasn't his cup of tea, but I think the Producers were stepping on his toes. Maybe that's whe he announced he wouldn't be returning to another bond film before QOS was even finished... I like QOS. It definitely was no Casino Royal, the action could get frustrating, and the story could lag....but it was still a fun Bond adventure. I would say it's definitely the second best since Goldeneye. So I've got faith in Forster with WWZ. I think he's got this man. He's got this by the ass. Oh....and as for the self destructing hotel - I can't remember exactly what was said, but it's mentioned that because the hotel is in the desert, it runs on some sort of power cells that are very unstable. Once the first one was blown, the rest followed.

[SymphonicX]

I'm 100% with Neil on this....hated QoS, a complete letdown and I also agree with MZ - Campbell is THE bond director.

[AcesandEights]

It's the most diabolical shakey-cam I've ever seen. Worse than the seizure-inducing shakey-cam used during the close up fight scenes in The Bourne Supremacy?

[wayzim]

Is QoS "Die Another Day"? Far from it, it's far better than that poo fest, which I enjoyed at the time, but it's just too muggy these days. QoS was far better, it just didn't achieve the impossible task of living up to the huge success of Casino Royale. The shaky cam was too over the top, however I was absolutely gripped during the early action scenes, even gasping at several points, and squinting with that "ooh" face at certain punches of action. If you want Casino Royale, watch Casino Royale, I feel there's too much focus on the previous film. Some focus okay, it is a series and a sequel after all, but chill out a smidge. I've never heard shaky cam be described as "wanky" either. I actually liked Quantum for what it was, a means to an end. I agree with several comments from cast and crew that Vesper's death in Casino was too crucial a turning point in this fledgling 00's life to ignore it or give it lip service. By the end of the film, we can now see the Bond he's destined to become. (and no, I'm not a shill for the movie company ) As to the shaky cam, some of it was abit disconcerting, but that's an unfortunate concession to the Bourne generation, not old farts like myself. As with any serious retooling, you gotta have some stops n starts before everything runs smooth. Quantum perhaps wasn't da bomb. but I doubt that it's a bomb (we have several Roger Moore films that set the bar way too low for that. ) rather it's Bond. Wayne Z "I'm the Money. " Vesper Lynd "And not a Penny wasted. " James Bond. (Casino Royale, 2006 )

[Publius]

Oh....and as for the self destructing hotel - I can't remember exactly what was said, but it's mentioned that because the hotel is in the desert, it runs on some sort of power cells that are very unstable. Once the first one was blown, the rest followed. That sounds perfectly plausible!

[bassman]

"I'm the Money. " Vesper Lynd "And not a Penny wasted. " James Bond. (Casino Royale, 2006 ) It's "Every penny of it", man! What kind of Bond fan are you?!?!? And Publius - It's pretty plausible for a James Bond film.

[MinionZombie]

Just to be clear, I'm not saying QoS was a bomb, just incase anyone coming to this late got confused, Neil is the one saying that and I'm disagreeing. Also, the hotel - exactly, it's got that fuel cell stuff, hydrogen or something explosive anyway, it's simply a chain reaction, one gets taken out, the rest will go in a general sequence as the fire spreads - come on Neil, that's just a cheap low blow.