John

[Mike70]

I'm not a particularly religious person or anything and there are alot of smart people here. So maybe someone can explian to me how At minimum atleast 160 Homo Sapiens just sprung up and started reproducing. According to the bible one man and one woman is enough. Now did some children die due to birth defects and other ailments related to having a gene pool that was too small? The answer certainly has to be yes but what gives? please let's not go down this religion road. i have no desire to talk about a subject so vacuous as judeo-christian creation myths.

[Rancid Carcass]

I don't think John was seriously considering his repopulation plan - Lets face it, men will say anything to get some action, (I'm sure we've all done it!). I mean, they're running away to a desert island and as far as they know they're the last three people left alive and one of them's McDermot... He's going to be using every god-damned trick in the book!

[AcesandEights]

Not wanting to to promote a digression, but I happen to think the Judeo-Christian mythology, especially the creation aspects are quite beautiful. Nonsensical when not looked at from allegorical standpoint, but very interesting, at least. Where else would I have received license to refer to women as a 'rib'? I ask you!

[darth los]

please let's not go down this religion road. i have no desire to talk about a subject so vacuous as judeo-christian creation myths. Not going down that road because it seems far fetched to me but none of us here can disprove it either. I just wish the people who believed in it would admit the same thing. That they don't have a single shred of evidence to back up what they're saying. But the question still stands and it's an eternal one. How did we get here and how are you are any scientist so sure that those numbers you listed are what hapened? As a matter of fact most human beings are useless, not going to invent shit resource hoggers. Maybe that's because there were only two in the beginning and most people after that just came out retarded because of the reasons you mentioned?

[AcesandEights]

Additionally, let me just say, I don't think re population is some sort of far-fetched notion, but rather a pretty natural inclination once the dust of any disaster scenario settles. No, it's not going to happen in the bunker, which makes getting out of the bunker, setting up for long term survival and maybe...maybe...finding others who did the same vital. But the first step would always be survive, then get to someplace else where long term survival can be maintained. John's whole mind set seemed to be about moving on, primarily due to a lack of faith in the current situation (this echoes his despondency over and morbid attitude towards the 'old' system). Anyway, If we can survive whatever super-eruption caused the massive de-population (i.e. genetic bottleneck) way back when, then who knows what else we can survive. I am assured at any rate Man’s practically inexterminate. Someday I must go into that. There’s always been an Ararat Where someone someone else begat To start the world all over at. That is, until we reach a point we can't come back from, but you don't come back from a massive die-off without making an effort.

[Mike70]

The first thing some of those "babies" would do, once they were old enough to think for themselves, would be to go over there and dig those records up. -stray- indeed. tell a young person not to do something and the second they get the chance, that's what they'll do. i don't think you could keep people from finding out about the past anyway. everything would simply be laying around for anyone to take a gander at. i'd approach it this way: i would tell the children that follow on about the past, about america, about everything. then i would make sure that that history is ridiculed for the death trip that it was and by using education, attempt to make the past look like nothing you would even begin to consider emulating. the message would be: this is what happened in the past and look where it got us. those systems of govt., culture, etc. are nothing to look back on fondly. it would be time to sweep everything away (without destroying or forgetting) and start completely over. i also would not labor under the ridiculous notion that the area i was living in was the "united states." it wouldn't be and that would be living in the past, which is utterly pathetic and psychologically dangerous.

[darth los]

i would tell the children that follow on about the past, about america, about everything. then i would make sure that that history is ridiculed for the death trip that it was and by using education, attempt to make the past look like nothing you would even begin to consider emulating. the message would be: this is what happened in the past and look where it got us. those systems of govt., culture, etc. are nothing to look back on fondly. I agree. If we don't know our history so that we may learn from it the same things are going to end up happening. There would also be collateral damage if the good was buried with the bad as well. Is that worth it? When kids discover the elders have been hiding something it makes them want to partake in it even more. Furthermore, once they find they've been being lied to all those years the elders would lose all credibility.

[strayrider]

i'd approach it this way: i would tell the children that follow on about the past, about america, about everything. then i would make sure that that history is ridiculed for the death trip that it was and by using education, attempt to make the past look like nothing you would even begin to consider emulating. the message would be: this is what happened in the past and look where it got us. those systems of govt., culture, etc. are nothing to look back on fondly. I believe you would be hard-pressed to come up with a "new" way of running things. Everything has already been tried -- for better or worse. Plus, even with education, you just cannot change human nature. Whatever the mistakes mankind has made in the past, will be made in the future. Every generation believes that theirs will somehow be "different" but it never seems to work out that way. Survivors start out to repopulate the world with loving, caring, and wise offspring. Tribes first. Then communities. Followed by nations. Clans become countries. Countries become rivals. Conflict ensues. Nothing you can do will stop this. The Dead win. They don't kill each other. -stray-

[JDFP]

please let's not go down this religion road. i have no desire to talk about a subject so vacuous as judeo-christian creation myths. Personally, I have no desire in going where people make comments like this attacking another person's faith, whether I agree with it or not. And using terminology such as "myth" to describe a belief system I do consider to be inappropriate. I don't attack others for their religious ideology, or lack thereof, and in a message board where people have different theological ideologies from different paths of life I don't think it's asking too much for equal respect. If it's a religious or political ideology, keep it to yourself or post on a different forum. I come here to read about flesh eating zombies and Romero, who people enjoy regardless of religion or creed, not to have a theological diatribe or to espouse philosophical drivel. We do have a general forum section as well. Nothing personal against you, Mike, anyone who uses the word "vacuous" has my vote of confidence, even if I disagree with the subjective way in which you used it, but I just don't think comments like this are appropriate here. Let's get back to the myths of Romero, or are they only myths? Thank ya kindly... j.p.