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    This is a tough one for me. I was born and raised a christian. Went to church almost every Sunday of my childhood and faithfully believed. Then life happened....

    As I'm sure a lot of people can relate to - the older I get, the harder it is to believe. At this point in my life I'm of the belief that when you die....you're done. But somewhere in the back of my mind that religious kid still wants to believe. It's just sad that it's faded so much.

    I also want to believe for my daughter and future children's sake. The thought of my child being dead and gone is a hard one to take, but I realize that's probably how it is. But still...maybe, just maybe there's an afterlife where we can "live" on together. Sounds sappy, I know. I'm sure most parents would understand what I'm trying to say here.

    So to sum it all up....I don't know what I believe.
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    I'm no Scientician, but doesn't Basic Physics state that energy is never destroyed - it only changes form?

    So whatever Life Energy that's keeping you upright, moving around & doin' stuff; wouldn't that just change into some other form, whatever that might be?

    I'm half serious here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
    I'm no Scientician, but doesn't Basic Physics state that energy is never destroyed - it only changes form?

    So whatever Life Energy that's keeping you upright, moving around & doin' stuff; wouldn't that just change into some other form, whatever that might be?

    I'm half serious here.
    "life energy"? now do you mean the biochemical process of cell growth, division and death or the electrical impulses from the brain, down the nerves to control the frame of muscle and bone around it?

    Or is this some chi based thing?

    Because no, it doesnt get converted to anything. when you die it kick starts the process like a shutdown. its a you sale and everything must go. its decomposition. the impulses and signals form the brain die off. the body breaks down into rotten matter which can be used for a number of things to feed off and grow on (i know a few people who've chosen a bunch of seeds and nuts to be put in some dirt in cardboard coffins when they died, which is a nice idea) this in turn feeds large creatures and plants and so on and so forth till they live, grow, produce offspring if they can and die themselves. If there's any conversion of energy going on its bacteria or small creatures eating you as you decompose to take in fuel to keep there motors runnin just like you or i do with a cheese burger.

    I'm sure a lot of people say "i dont really, but in the back of my mind..." as a form of coping mechanism. Whilst we're still animals we are distinctly alone in the constant awareness of just how small we are in this galaxy alone and we are here for a blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things. For some people that thought can make them thing why should i get out fo bed in the morning?, whats the point?
    Of course the point is propogate the genes of the species, consume, die and you in tern feed others whilst your offspring keep your genes going as you did with your parents.
    Trouble is we feel some sort of entitlement as lord of all we survey and feel we need something more, like thats not enough, and have this sort of psychological defense mechanism. in the back of there mind there is that maybe, to tell them they are special, that we will always continue, we won't be another set of bones in a museum in 1000 years.
    I dont find this ignorant, backwards or even pitiable mind you. In some fashion i think thats why we have so many religions around the world. some people need something to believe in, thats all. if we were less evolved then probably we wouldn't but when we can lay back at night and let our minds wander a lot of us need a buffer, lest we break under the awe inspiring grandiose of the infinite macrocosm.

    I mean i had to cope with the idea i could be dying in my teens. i wasn't thinking about a heaven, or a magic ghost of "energy" living on. i was just scared that the world would carry on, that i would be forgotten- and most importantly, i wouldnt see what was to come in the future.

    In the long term we gotta live with that. when your dead, your dead. we rot and feed what we have fed off which in turn feeds future generations. all part of the biospheres cycle and i can look at it in the naked light of day and i'm fine with it. Everyone reading this will die and rot. Thats not a bad thing. thats what we are designed through the millions of years of evolution to do.


    I guess the bigger question is, why doe's it matter if we do or don't? we will never see it here to report back, it will never be proven. for us this is all there is and i would much rather live my life than live in a way i thought was giving me a pearly gates eternity that might not be y'know? Guess thats the sad irony of being able to contemplate our own mortality. We assume that deaths the end of chapter one instead of the last page.


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    Bassman - that's very similar to my story. My parents raised me full blown catholic (*shudders*) - sunday school and everything.

    Then, like the late great George Carlin once said:

    "I was born and raised a catholic until I reached the age of reason"


    Damn.. this just made me realize once again how much I miss Carlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouCipherr View Post
    Bassman - that's very similar to my story. My parents raised me full blown catholic (*shudders*) - sunday school and everything.

    Then, like the late great George Carlin once said:

    "I was born and raised a catholic until I reached the age of reason"


    Damn.. this just made me realize once again how much I miss Carlin.
    Lou:

    Yeah, full blown Catholic (with a capital C) until reaching the age of reason... and then deciding to not use said reason apparently.

    Anyway, let's keep this on topic with Neil's original post. God knows there's enough anti-Catholic bashing around to not need to bring Carlin's asinine statements up here (and for those George Carlin fans I just insulted, you'll live. Besides, Dice Clay is far funnier ).

    A *shudder* at being Catholic, Lou? I guess some people appreciate being part of something much greater than themselves and some don't. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, but I wouldn't call it *shudder* worthy to not want to belong to it. Eh, to each their own...

    Hellsing: Good post. To answer your question, "Why does it matter if it <afterlife> does or doesn't exist?" the answer, I think, is that it doesn't matter. Alot of Christians (and other religions too probably), unfortunately, use the belief in an afterlife as a crutch from which they allow anything to happen to them here on earth (like your famed Marx stated by calling religion an opiate when it's for this purpose -- "Oh, I know I'm poor and oppressed here, but one day I'll have my reward in Heaven!").

    I believe the soul/spirit/elan vital continues after a person dies. But, ultimately, it really doesn't matter. Here and now, this is where things matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terran View Post
    Isnt that question a paradox?

    If there is "life" after "death" what does "death" mean?
    I voted no.

    A transition maybe?

    Last edited by darth los; 18-Jun-2010 at 05:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDFP View Post
    A *shudder* at being Catholic, Lou? I guess some people appreciate being part of something much greater than themselves and some don't. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, but I wouldn't call it *shudder* worthy to not want to belong to it. Eh, to each their own...
    Understandable, I'm just not one of those people. Everyone is free to believe and expresses themselves as they wish (at least that's how I see it), but I just can't get into the mindset.

    Trust me, if you had to go through what I had to when I was younger, the shudder is well justified. My religious upbringing was pretty.. well.. lets just say "intense" - and when I think about it, it just sends shivers down my spine. I probably should've made the reasoning behind that shudder a bit more clear. I meant more based on my experience, not on the religion overall.

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    some of you might find these interesting:

    http://www.higgo.com/quantum/qti.htm

    http://www.antiquark.com/2005/07/qua...mortality.html

    these are a couple of articles on quantum immortality. it is mind bending stuff and very thought provoking.

    i wonder how long it will take a certain one of you to make an attempt to thrill us with your supposed intelligence.
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    Like Bass and Lou, was raised a Die Hard Ctaholic and then I saw through the bullshit.

    how can someone preach to me about true love and respect thy neighbor when after the ceremony they are in the back fondling 10 yr old boys.

    Fuck the catholic church and their hypocrisy which apparently knows no bounds.

    In regards to the topic question... I cannot answer because I don't know. I would hope we get a chance at a re-do, but I have learned it is better to make the best of what you got.
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    I guess I was the only one to vote yes... I can't help but think that people will continue to live after I die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post
    how can someone preach to me about true love and respect thy neighbor when after the ceremony they are in the back fondling 10 yr old boys.

    Fuck the catholic church and their hypocrisy which apparently knows no bounds.
    hurm? I can understand if you disagree with what's happened in the news, but turning down the whole religion because of a few bad eggs?

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    It's way more than a few buddy.

    Furthermore, even if it was a few the conspiracy to cover it up spans the whole church and reaches the highest levels.

    Yeah the Nazi dude with the funny hat covered this shit up as well, so ya...

    FEAR IS THE OLDEST TOOL OF POWER. IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY THE FEAR OF THOSE AROUND US THEN IT KEEPS US FROM SEEING THE ACTIONS OF THOSE ABOVE US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy911sc View Post
    I guess I was the only one to vote yes... I can't help but think that people will continue to live after I die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    It's way more than a few buddy.
    He's right. It's way more than a few at this point.

    Y'know what Dj? You just reminded me of something I had completely forgot about, so in that case, I would like to reinstate my *shudder* all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouCipherr View Post
    He's right. It's way more than a few at this point.

    Y'know what Dj? You just reminded me of something I had completely forgot about, so in that case, I would like to reinstate my *shudder* all together.
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