Would you say...

[krakenslayer]

Reallllllly!? This is almost as weird as that time Bass tried to explain to me that some people prefer Ghostbusters 2 to the original. Unfathomable! I am one of those people. Well, not exactly, I do recognise the superiority of the first film, I just subjectively enjoy 2 as much, if not more, probably because it was the first GB movie I saw as a child. I also prefer Terminator 1 to Terminator 2, Alien 3 is my favourite David Fincher film, and Fight Club is horrible film. :P

[MinionZombie]

I am one of those people. Well, not exactly, I do recognise the superiority of the first film, I just subjectively enjoy 2 as much, if not more, probably because it was the first GB movie I saw as a child. I also prefer Terminator 1 to Terminator 2, Alien 3 is my favourite David Fincher film, and Fight Club is horrible film. :P I'm fine with the Terminator 1/2 thing, but Alien 3 as the best David Fincher movie?! Fight Club was the bomb in Phantoms, yo! I have no real problem with GB2 personally (I rather enjoy it, and have done so since I was a kid, like with the first flick) - but GB1 is where it's really at for me. Next thing you'll be saying is that you think Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation is better than TCM74, that The Thing 2011 kicks the arse of The Thing 1982, and that in your estimation Casablanca is a load of old cobblers. I think all those super-hot curries have fried your brain, Kraken!

[AcesandEights]

and Fight Club is horrible film. :P

[krakenslayer]

I know. There should have been an "a" in there, how could I have been so careless! Honestly, I don't think Fight Club is a badly-made film. I just hate the characters, the story and the message. Fuck that movie. EDIT: And fuck Donnie Darko too, while we're at it. That's another film the hipsters go nuts for that I cannot stand.

[AcesandEights]

EDIT: And fuck Donnie Darko too, while we're at it. That's another film the hipsters go nuts for that I cannot stand. Fair disclosure, my non-hipster credentials: Not seen Donnie Darko, it's sequel or, for that matter, The Big Lebowski.

[kidgloves]

I think a lot of credit should go to Greg Nicotero. He seems to have taken the genre on his shoulders from Uncle George and quite rightly so IMHO.

[MinionZombie]

Fair disclosure, my non-hipster credentials: Not seen Donnie Darko, it's sequel or, for that matter, The Big Lebowski. No Darko or Lebowski?! For goodness sake, man - get your life in order! I think a lot of credit should go to Greg Nicotero. He seems to have taken the genre on his shoulders from Uncle George and quite rightly so IMHO. A fair point indeed. I watched the documentary about KNB Effects called "Nightmare Factory" and his passion and optimism for the genre and his profession is boundless.

[shootemindehead]

Have to say I wasn't that pushed on 'Donnie Darko' either when I saw it. But, I watched it again recently and it's not that bad. 'Fight Club' is pretty good. I haven't a clue what the message is from that film though...Don't be mad? I dunno. I like it mostly for Ed Norton. As for 'The Big Lebowski', I was really "meh" about that film for years, until I watched it a couple of months ago and now I like it. The Coens are hit and miss for me though. They can be great, as in 'Blood Simple' and 'Miller's Crossing' and utter crap, as in 'The Lady Killers'. They can also be "meh", like 'Oh Brother, Where art Thou' and 'The Man Who Wasn't There'. But some of their "mehs" can grow into "yays", like 'Fargo' and 'The Big Lebowski'. Most of their output probably needs more than one sitting.

[MoonSylver]

I am one of those people. Well, not exactly, I do recognise the superiority of the first film, I just subjectively enjoy 2 as much, if not more, probably because it was the first GB movie I saw as a child. I also prefer Terminator 1 to Terminator 2, Alien 3 is my favourite David Fincher film, and Fight Club is horrible film. :P Have to say I wasn't that pushed on 'Donnie Darko' either when I saw it. But, I watched it again recently and it's not that bad. 'Fight Club' is pretty good. I haven't a clue what the message is from that film though...Don't be mad? I dunno. I like it mostly for Ed Norton. As for 'The Big Lebowski', I was really "meh" about that film for years, until I watched it a couple of months ago and now I like it. The Coens are hit and miss for me though. They can be great, as in 'Blood Simple' and 'Miller's Crossing' and utter crap, as in 'The Lady Killers'. They can also be "meh", like 'Oh Brother, Where art Thou' and 'The Man Who Wasn't There'. But some of their "mehs" can grow into "yays", like 'Fargo' and 'The Big Lebowski'. Most of their output probably needs more than one sitting. Krackers is turning into Shootem. Shootem is turning into Krackers.... No Darko or Lebowski?! For goodness sake, man - get your life in order!

[Mike70]

Krackers is turning into Shootem. Shootem is turning into Krackers.... so in effect, everyone is going crackerdog apeshit? try it this way, moon: ch-apes-7.jpg 16266164_400x400.jpg is your meme kung fu weak today? - - - Updated - - - Honestly, I don't think Fight Club is a badly-made film. I just hate the characters, the story and the message. Fuck that movie. amen to this. that movie fraking sucks, repulsive characters, the usual is it real or is it memorex bullshit that's been done a zillion times in film.

[MinionZombie]

The thing with the characters in Fight Club is that they don't particularly like the situation they're in/the world they're living in (e.g. Norton's character's world of Ikea furniture and office drone drudgery), and they don't particularly like themselves. They feel numb to the world, or they feel let down by it, or they feel totally lost - but Fight Club comes along and, as they say in the flick, they find something in themselves and in other people, that they can respond to - everyone's on a level-playing field, and they're exerting the primal male need for violence, or the effects that violence produce inside you. Then it turns into a sort of revenge plot against modern society that gets out-of-hand.

[MoonSylver]

is your meme kung fu weak today. No I just figured it spoke for itself. Why can't you see it? I can see it. What's going on here?!?!

[JonOfTheShred]

Hipsters like the Big Lebowski? I haven't seen Donnie Darko either, actually. And I remember disliking Fight Club when I saw it, but that was around the time it first came out. I might like it more now.

[AcesandEights]

Hipsters like the Big Lebowski? I was more joking than anything else. Hipster has become a sort of slur that gets thrown around way too much lately. I think a lot of people are using the term to label people they perceive as identifying with or partaking in a fad or activity not because they like it, but because they are doing it as a fashion statement. That's one aspect of it, at least.

[MinionZombie]

I was more joking than anything else. Hipster has become a sort of slur that gets thrown around way too much lately. I think a lot of people are using the term to label people they perceive as identifying with or partaking in a fad or activity not because they like it, but because they are doing it as a fashion statement. That's one aspect of it, at least. Enter, Glove & Boots: