My plan for the mall

[darth los]

Rambo, if a huge wave of bikers were to lead a mass attack on the mall, I'm sure even you're shooting skills wouldn't be enough. Maybe if you dug a thirty foot moat around the mall and surrounded it by fifty yards of landmines, you might be able to keep them out! Bottom line is that you're not going to keep a renegade group that has no regard for your life or theirs out without killing every damned one. And you're not going to do that with three people (one whose immobilized by a pregnancy).They'll find a way, they're scavengers. If they got frustrated enough, they'd probably just burn the mall so you'd get nothing as well! It's true that the bikers had no regard for the mall. They pretty much destroyed anything that they couldn't use. Like peter said they were a professional army. It would have been next to impossible to thwart them anyway. This got me thinking. Is hindsight do you think that they should have made it so that they gave the raiders a whole bunch of stuff so that they could be on their way or do you think the bikers were just hell bent on destruction?

[sandrock74]

Hell bent on destruction. They were taking stuff they not only didn't need like tv's but they wasted valuable time destroying stuff as the zombies closed ranks on them. "Professional army" my butt!

[darth los]

Hell bent on destruction. They were taking stuff they not only didn't need like tv's but they wasted valuable time destroying stuff as the zombies closed ranks on them. "Professional army" my butt! As if the pie fight weren't a major clue. You know they really didn't have to go as far as they did in terms of wrecking the place. And they knew they were screwing everything up for the inhabitants of the mall but didn't care. That's foul yo.

[flyboy]

This is my ultimate plan for the Monroeville Mall had I been in it. This could be done without leaving the mall even! I would have went to the hardware store and picked up black paint. Paint the glass on the doors black so no one, zombie or raider, would be able to see inside. I would be curious if maybe that would have inspired the zombies to give up and leave after a while. No one outside would even be able to tell if lights were on inside! I would have also gotten chains and pad locks to place on the doors to act as a extra line of defense. Also, as the door opened inwards, I would have used some wood to act as doorjams (may even be able to pick some actual ones up from somewhere) and jammed them under the doors to keep them from being pushed open. I would have stocked the "penthouse" full of anything usefull like food, water and ammunition (why leave it in the stores?) and locked the gates to the stores everynight without fail! Why leave them unlocked? Who else would be using them? Also, I would have installed deadbolts and doorknob locks on the door leading to the stairwell and the door to the "penthouse". If the mall was going to be raided, it most likely would have been at night under the cover of darkness (which is exactly when it happened!) so if/when that happened, all you would have to do is turn off the power to the mall. If you were hell-bent on defending the mall, you could have set up shop on the roof by the truck bay and taken pot shots at the raiders as they tried to get in. If they were surrounded by zombies, there was no power and people shooting at them I bet they would have run! Why risk severe casualties just to gain entrance? But, if they were persistant and still forced their way in... I would be willing to bet that the raiders, finding a mall locked down and powerless, would not hang around too long. Shooting the locks off of gates is not as easy as movies would have us believe (ricochets) and doing that in pitch black would be extremely difficult! They had no hope of turning the power back on as the control room was behind the fake wall. I'm betting the raiders would have left after 10 minutes maximum. These people were not soldiers, I don't see them fighting to the death for anything. Even if it was deemed that the mall was a loss, just retreat to the "penthouse" and hang around while you ready yourself to move on. There would be no hurry. What do you all think? Anything you would add? if i was a raider and came to the mall after you did all this, i would smash my way in knowing of all the ''goodies'' inside! a few raiders are bound to make it in even if someone was shooting at them.

[darth los]

The bottom line is that they were hell bent on getting in there. We could speculate all day but nothing short of an army of your own was going to stop them from infiltrating the place.