"Scene of the crime..."

[Svengoolie]

"...The only person who could ever mess with this gun would be the sucker with the bread to buy it." I'm not a gun nut, or anything close....but, I DO own what our Euro-friends would probably think is a stunning little multitude of firearms. I've got and AR10, a BAR, and a shotgun. All gifts from my brother. And, I've got four pistols....leftovers from my old job. Although it's probably been done to death, I was just wondering--what would be the best firearm to have in a LD-type situation...especially in terms of long arms. Now, the applications of such a weapon would also cross over into real life for use in a survivalist/home defense situation. I'm thinking that the ideal long arm would preferably be semi-auto, be fairly accurate, and pack enough of a punch to put someone or something down with one shot. Please, give your selections and give reasons why you chose them. Thanks, sports fans....

[deadwrtr]

[QUOTE=Svengoolie]"...The only person who could ever mess with this gun would be the sucker with the bread to buy it." I believe it's "miss" not mess. Although it would make quite a mess too.

[Deadman_Deluxe]

[QUOTE=deadwrtr] "...The only person who could ever mess with this gun would be the sucker with the bread to buy it." I believe it's "miss" not mess. Word!

[axlish]

If you are on foot, then I think a pistol is preferrable. You aren't going to have time to shoulder up a weapon, especially if the attacker is in close range. I'm not a gun expert, but I'd think you'd only want enough power to do the trick (blow their brains out). I guess a .38 would be nice, with some 6 packs of bullets ready for the reload (whatever those things are that cops have). Add a alluminum softball bat and you are good to go. EDIT: I guess something with clips would be better, like a glock.

[p2501]

Since everyone already corrected the quotational ****up........ i'll answer the question. if your staying foot based, i think on of the following three would eb best. Ruger 10/22 - small lightweight, the ammo is light an plentiful. it's stopping power is somewhat limited. it's more of a precision weapon than it is a rambo gun. AR15. - .223 would be light enough to carry a ton of, the round has some umph to it. and supply parts are readily available. AK47 - larger, bulkier weapon, but the rounder are bigger, and pack alot of knock down punch. further the weapon is a total pig and will function long after everything else is gone. sidearm - seriously why are you getting that close? but something in 9mm will do. Axlish they're call speedloaders( :-p ). also a .38 is a very close quarter weapon, i'd side against it only due to it's effective range unless your trained on one alot.

[Philly_SWAT]

Since everyone already corrected the quotational ****up........ i'll answer the question. Well, almost. Peter says "Ain't it a crime", not "Scene of the crime"

[axlish]

sidearm - seriously why are you getting that close? but something in 9mm will do. I'm thinking about being on foot, where a suprise can happen any time. If one hops up on me I just want to put it to its head and pop a cap. If it is over 10 feet away, why would I even F with it? I'm not trying to solve the crisis, just trying to stay alive.

[Tullaryx]

Me and a few others have actually discussed this very topic numerous times and have agreed that for a long arm a carbine or rifle using the .22LR would be ideal. Unless one was a pure marksman and can hit targets hundreds of yards away, a .22LR would be good enough in slowly thinning out the ranks of zombies in the way. One-shot one-kill would be nearly impossible unless one was an expert at it so wasting ammo would be a fact of life. .22LR is a very common caliber and all gunstores and sporting goods stors will carry tons of it. I would also supplement that with a a 12-gauge Mossberg. If possible, even get a combat shotgun (legally registered of course) from gun shows and if necessary from the black market. Used in close quarters and aimed head high it could do alot of damage and buy time to escape. For personal sidearm I would probably carry two. A 9mm H&K USP (one I do own) and a .22 caliber pistol. The USP would be for when stealth stops being an option. The .22's quieter report would be good in trying to keep the noise down.

[MaximusIncredulous]

I'm not much of an expert on guns but I'd go with either a Colt Peacemaker (or replica) or a Colt 1911A1 and plenty of spare parts and ammo. Those guns have been proven in hard conditions over the years so that's good enough for me plus I'm a bit familiar with the mechanisim in Colt single action revolvers which will come in handy when parts wear out and need replacing.

[Tullaryx]

I would very much enjoy to bring a .45 as part of my gear, but it's size, the size of its ammunition and the wicked strong recoil it has would be more of a hindrance than an advantage. I would really just use one if it meant blowing my brains out. A .45 ACP would do the job well.

[Svengoolie]

Sorry for the misquote, boys. I started this thread late last night while high on Vicodin and watching "Saving Private Ryan"...so my Dawn skills weren't exactly top notch. As for Deadman--way to contribute. As always.

[p2501]

I'm thinking about being on foot, where a suprise can happen any time. If one hops up on me I just want to put it to its head and pop a cap. If it is over 10 feet away, why would I even F with it? I'm not trying to solve the crisis, just trying to stay alive. no no i agree, hell i even own a .38 and carry it frequently. but the probelm with most .38's is A) thier snubnosed so there the decreased range. b) they're ****ing loud. you pop one with a .38 your just drawing attention to yourself.

[Tullaryx]

Speaking of Saving Private Ryan, if I could get my hands on a well-maintained M1 carbine, that would be a good substitute for a .22LR. Small and compact and using ammo that's still very numerous and well-stocked by gun stores, etc..

[MaximusIncredulous]

I would very much enjoy to bring a .45 as part of my gear, but it's size, the size of its ammunition and the wicked strong recoil it has would be more of a hindrance than an advantage. I would really just use one if it meant blowing my brains out. A .45 ACP would do the job well. I was thinking the same thing regarding recoil and thought an SAA in .22 would be best. Simple mechanics + utilitarian ammo = practical zombie killer.

[Svengoolie]

That's what got me thinking, Tull... I was going to set out a couple of suggestions (amoung them the M1 Garand) to see what the peanut gallery might have to say about them, but decided to let others put up their own first and then suggest them later.