World War Z (film)

[Neil]

It's strange, running zombies don't concern me. Infact running zombies are obviously terrifying in a whole different way... But things like daft monster contact lenses and dino-roars annoy the hell out of me...

[AcesandEights]

It's strange, running zombies don't concern me. Infact running zombies are obviously terrifying in a whole different way... But things like contact lenses and dino-roars annoy the hell out of me... Running, or even better, fast-loping zombies, and even some odd choices for eye color I can deal with, but full-on sprinters, acrobatic or parkour zeds...that's where I start to have a hard time. Especially now that I've gotten some newer quality slow zombie action with TWD and The Dead. Parkour zombies...talk about zombiesploitation

[kidgloves]

Some people have seen the first trailer for WWZ and it's suprisingly positive. Terrifying, they say. This sounds right up my street.

[Neil]

Running, or even better, fast-loping zombies, and even some odd choices for eye color I can deal with, but full-on sprinters, acrobatic or parkour zeds...that's where I start to have a hard time. Especially now that I've gotten some newer quality slow zombie action with TWD and The Dead. Parkour zombies...talk about zombiesploitation Full on running, tis OK with me... But as you say, acrobatic or parkour is just daft. I don't understand how death=ninja skills, or dino-lungs, or immediate strange eyes (contacts)...

[Kaos]

Neil, you forget gravity defying zombies that crawl across ceilings... Contacts can be a good thing. They were effectively done in Night 90 in my opinion.

[MinionZombie]

Neil, you forget gravity defying zombies that crawl across ceilings... Contacts can be a good thing. They were effectively done in Night 90 in my opinion. As part of a make-up scheme that tried to get a close as they could to 'real corpses'. I did love the eyes they had for those zombies as they really did look lifeless and missing their soul - such as when Ben staggers up from the basement. It's just a void. Creepy as hell, man.

[Neil]

As part of a make-up scheme that tried to get a close as they could to 'real corpses'. I did love the eyes they had for those zombies as they really did look lifeless and missing their soul - such as when Ben staggers up from the basement. It's just a void. Creepy as hell, man. But it's when the moment they change their vocal chords mutate along with their eyes for some reason... And worse still if they then gain super ninja abilities... eg: In the Dawn remake, as soon as Ana's partner dies, he gains balmy contacts and dino roar ability! It's daft and ultimately insulting and lazy, as if the writers/director think they need these queues to help the dim witted audience into what's going on!

[MinionZombie]

But it's when the moment they change their vocal chords mutate along with their eyes for some reason... And worse still if they then gain super ninja abilities... eg: In the Dawn remake, as soon as Ana's partner dies, he gains balmy contacts and dino roar ability! It's daft and ultimately insulting and lazy, as if the writers/director think they need these queues to help the dim witted audience into what's going on! Agreed - I despise that sort of lazy bullshit. I'm no fan of runners either - I've enjoyed movies with runners in them, but I would prefer them to not be runners the entire time. I've commented on my reasoning in favour of shamblers ad nauseum, so I won't go into it all again, though. I think the worst I've seen is the dreadful crime against cinema that was the Day of the Dead 'remake' - where people would die, then immediately decay do an extensive degree within seconds, gain said superpowers, dino roar etc, and then be able to crawl across the ceiling - on those flimsy ceiling tiles that couldn't support a mug of water, let alone an entire person - nevermind that it all flies in the face of gravity ... and common-ruddy-sense! I do feel that some filmmakers out there have used runners because they're either uneducated about the genre, or they're lazy and copy 28 Days Later (which wasn't even a flippin' zombie movie anyway - agaiin, argued about that ad nauseum), or they've no idea how to generate a scenario in which shamblers pose a threat ... which is actually not a difficult task. The Walking Dead has proven in spades to a very successful degree, just how it is you're supposed to work with shamblers. That show is downright terrifying at times, and the tension knows no bounds - and not an Olympian Zombie in sight. The "Hinzman Hobble" is clearly the way forward. As for WWZ - I've heard so much nonsense about this flick that I can't expect anything good about it ultimately. It might have budget and scope, but I suspect this is going to ultimately be wide of the mark and a decided case of a missed opportunity.

[JonOfTheShred]

Sprinters are the blackface of zombies. Runners are fine. But they shouldn't be Olympian track stars that hurdle fences. A fast, disorientated shuffle is perfect if speed is a necessary element - there's no horror in coordination. It just gives the zombie a very human feel when they run successfully, as opposed to dead things moving as fast as they can, but still kinda failing in the process.

[AcesandEights]

As for WWZ - I've heard so much nonsense about this flick that I can't expect anything good about it ultimately. It might have budget and scope, but I suspect this is going to ultimately be wide of the mark and a decided case of a missed opportunity. Nah, MZ...low expectations for this sort of endeavor is a good thing. Let yourself enjoy the project for whatever it ends up being (whether it's an okay zed flick, or a great cautionary tale), rather than poisoning the well. It's not going to live up to the book, but it could very well be a decent zed flick if they have gotten their act together via re-shoots and editing.

[JonOfTheShred]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=96762 <-- Click here for the teaser footage or http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/32...e-world-war-z/ So there's roughly 20 - 30 seconds of footage, and sadly enough, that's more than enough time to pick up on the fact this movie will be a MASSIVE FAILURE. Tidal waves of CGI zombies, no, infected. Absolutely no indication this was inspired by the book, other than sharing the name "World War Z." A shameless cash-in on a genre that, at it's best, can stand (decayed) heads and shoulders above all other shows on basic television....and at its worst can be, well...THIS. In World War Z, the main character was basically...the entire world. Or the war between zombies and humans. Or the apocalypse itself, if you will. We didn't need an obvious lead in the book, other than the interviewer who kept a very loose narrative, because World War Z the book was bigger than any one person. Hollywood f*cked up what could've been the most epic zombie movie ever made, if handled correctly. This should have been the be-all, end-all zombie flick. Finally, we could've seen a zombie film completely freed of having to follow a strict formula. - No human arc to bog down the action. - The collapse of society from dozens of perspectives. - All out warfare between humans and the undead. - The peak of the outbreak for more than 10 minutes, like most movies give us. Full half hour scenes. We should have got The Helms Deep of zombie cinema. - Looks into the government, the army, the media, hospitals, and rescue stations at the point of the outbreak. Most zombie movies are either during the apocalypse, but locked inside a smaller location, or years after, Mad Max style. When are we going to get our tastefully done movie showing the entire world in the throes of a zombie apocalypse? When will we get to see actual battles between the army and legions of walkers? When do we get something majestic in scope, I'm talking Lord of the Rings size battles, that are both action packed and horrifically frightening? When we are going to get a feast scene bigger than the ones in Land of the Dead? (Love or hate Land of the Dead, there is that ONE SCENE...you know which one...which is literally the biggest zombie feast ever shown. Then a missile interrupts the dinner party.) But nope. We got screwed instead. It rustles my jimmies hardcore. Instead of the most epic showcase of zombie action ever....an anthology of the apocalypse....hell, they could have made that into a trilogy, with how much ground could be covered....instead we get walls of CGI zombies climbing on top of each other. Not even GOOD CGI, either, I'm talking horrendously bad, Godzilla 1998 CGI. This film is an abomination. It is a slap in the face to zombie fanatics such as us. It's literally the black face of zombies. This CGI is BAAAAD. The zombies are like a f*cking tidal wave, it looks so stupid.

[EvilNed]

This film is an abomination. It is a slap in the face to zombie fanatics such as us. It's literally the black face of zombies. This CGI is BAAAAD. The zombies are like a f*cking tidal wave, it looks so stupid. You haven't even seen it yet?

[Neil]

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/32...e-world-war-z/ So there's roughly 20 - 30 seconds of footage, and sadly enough, that's more than enough time to pick up on the fact this movie will be a MASSIVE FAILURE. While seemingly a good step away from the original material I'm not quite willing to write it off yet. The 'tidal wave' could be an interesting idea. A mass of fast frantic dead, mindlessly trying to get to any living... ie: They're just clambering wildly trying to get them - This would result in the 'tidal wave' we're seeing. That could be pretty $hit scary if done right! So yes, this doesn't really seem to be "World War Z," but it might be an interesting infected/zombie flick! I am still confused though if this is a zombie or infected flick? ie: Are these folks suppose to be dead or infected? I am worried it has a sort of "I Am Legend" look/feel to it, and that film did miss the mark with its daft over-the-top infected with super abilities! - - - Updated - - - You haven't even seen it yet? He's judging it from the teaser... (he included the link & I've added another)

[clanglee]

Yeah I just saw this myself. I'm not a fan of the I Am Legends looking cgi zombies. But I'll withhold harsh judgement until I see the movie. To say it's the worst thing to happen to the genre is a bit premature and unlikely even. I've seen some absolutely horrid zombie flics. Surely this one wont be the worst ever made.

[Christopher Jon]

Holy over-reaction Batman! Granted, the majority of this forum probably will hate it but I didn't see anything to imply that it's either good or bad. Thursday you'll get the full trailer to rip apart.