6 Things that bug me about dead movies

[Chakobsa]

Well, this is a tricky subject to get into. Those scenes were filmed on Sanibel Island, not far from Ft. Myers. Now, neither Sanibel Island or Ft. Myers is mentioned in the movie, so is our cast actually in those locations, or are they supposed to be somewhere else? Hard to say. Just like in Dawn, they never mention Monroeville...is that where the Mall was, or was it just supposed to be a mall in an undisclosed location? You can plainly see the MM Monroeville Mall logo on the doors. I dont think that the word "Florida" is ever used in the movie either. There is a map of Florida on the map of their meeting room, even though that room is in the old mine in Wampum, PA. That is why we have to assume the movie has a setting of Florida. With that being said, I live in Florida, and I can tell you that there are not many, if any, underground bunkers in the whole State, as most of the State isnt that far above sea level, and any basement type bunker would flood. I believe that GAR used to have a home on Sanibel Island, so that is probably why some of the movie was shot there and in Ft. Myers. But is the opening scene supposed to even be Ft . Myers? It isnt mentioned, and we dont see a big sign that says "Fort Myers", so is it set there, or just a undisclosed movie location? Downtown Ft. Myers looks pretty much the same as it did in the movie. As for Sanibel Island, there is a big bridge over there that allows vehicle traffic, so in theory zombies could walk across the bridge to get to the bunker. Our heros could have destroyed that bridge, but then a land escape would be cut off in case there was a problem with the chopper. Or if the chopper crashed on everyone got killed on a search mission, the bunker inhabitants would have no means to leave the island os the bridge was gone. If the soldiers eliminated the zombies as Chakobsa suggested, there would be no more "specimens" to bring back into the complex. It is mentioned how Logan is going thru too may of them, and the men might refuse to go out "in the wild" to get any more. If there were none on the island, they would have to go all the way to the mainland to get some. Also, I think that Bill says something like "Over on the mainland, all the shopping malls are closed". You wouldnt refer to the mainland if you were in fact on the mainland, therefore I think you have to take it that they are on some island, if not Sanibel Island. I've gone back and watched the scence in question, Philly, and bill says; "....The power's off on the mainland and all the shopping malls are closed." So you could be right about the island thing. Thing is though, if they are in fact on an island, why doesn't Rhodes just get his men to "blow the piss" out of the finite walking dead population? and even if there was a causeway, how hard would it be to blow it to ****aree? If the base is on a potentially isolated island then the dynamic of the film and the motivations of Rhodes and his men would necessarily be different and ultimately not as interesting.

[Doc Liberty]

and even if there was a causeway, how hard would it be to blow it to ****aree? I think it could be pretty difficult. There are some pretty substantial causeways in that part of Florida. The soldiers may not have explosives, or enough explosives. Just because they are soldiers, doesn't mean they are experienced in demolition. And who wants to place demolition charges while there are zombies wondering around trying to eat you. Retreating armies often get demolition experts to blow up bridges. That should be easier than blowing up a causeway (bridge is weaker, demolition experts rather than random soldiers high on weed, no zombies trying to eat you while you lay explosives) - but even then, sometimes the bridges don't collapse when exploded.

[rawrOTD]

what i find inconsistant in the 4 movies is the noise zombies can produce if i recall in night and dawn they really did not make any noise not even moaning maybe theres a little in dawn but i never noticed but in day we have moaning, grunting and bub crying a bit, he even almost says a few words! then in land its like moan city with big daddy apparently giving fully healthy lungs a good working as he screamed to the sky. what happened there? not complaining just wondering if anyone else picked up on that evolution in the zombie ability

[Doc Liberty]

I noticed that too. I just figured that relearning to use your lungs a bit, was a bit like the other gradual relearning of human skills that the zombies did over time.

[hadrian0117]

Am I being perverse, but did anyone else find it odd that Rhodes and his men never tried to rape Sarah? Or that she never attempted to use her "feminine charms" to save herself? I mean Rhodes is willing to commit murder in cold blood. Where they gay or what?

[7734]

Am I being perverse? yes she never attempted to use her "feminine charms" to save herself Sarah just wasn't that type of person. She was one of the few characters in the trilogy with a real sense of integrity. She knew that would debase her, and such things inevitably lead to a bad end. Where they gay or what? No. They all wanted a shot at some lovin'. Maybe such a thing was intolerable to Major Cooper. Maybe they were real comrades and actually respected Miguel until s!@# hit the fan.

[Huescacho]

There is a thing that nobody told... The zombies smell very bad, no?. Their bodies stink!... Nobody can smell them before they come?. Think in this idea...

[SymphonicX]

what i find inconsistant in the 4 movies is the noise zombies can produce if i recall in night and dawn they really did not make any noise not even moaning maybe theres a little in dawn but i never noticed Zombies in Dawn moan a lot.... examples: Just after the "no more room in hell" scene, there's a shot of the zombies at the blocked door and one of them hisses just as it cuts to Roger in agony... When the zombies are shuffling around the mall and Richard France's character on the TV is talking about motor functions, the zombie in the ice hockey goal is moaning freakishly....deep breaths and all that. When Stephen turns into a zombie, he signals other zombies and you can spefically hear growls and moans as they follow him. Anyway as for NOTLD I think they did moan, but the mix wasn't great on that movie really - the music well overpowered anything you could hear...its forgivable really. But when Ben sets them on fire they moan and scream like anything post this movie. Now if you REALLY want to talk inconsistencies...tell me why the zombies in Dawn are soooooooo slow compared to that crazy fireman zombie in Day, who gets caught in the pen by Miguel and Steele and starts beating the crap out of his enclosure...also compare with Bill Hinzman at the start of night, jogging along happily after Barbara, (ok it was downhill i think) whilst zombies in dawn don't even have the speed to reach out and grab someone. In fact if you think about it, I'd MUCH rather be running past a group of DAWN zombies than DAY zombies....imagine those guys in the Mall, there is NO way on hell Peter and Roger would have survived that little episode with the keys outside JC Penny's. *CONCLUSION: I watch these movies WAY too much.* Am I being perverse, but did anyone else find it odd that Rhodes and his men never tried to rape Sarah? Or that she never attempted to use her "feminine charms" to save herself? I mean Rhodes is willing to commit murder in cold blood. Where they gay or what? There was talk about them assaulting her. "Give the rest of us a chance at some lovin'" (Rhodes) and outside, John Amplas tells Sarah "you'd better watch yourself, I mean physically, watch yourself." The threat was very real indeed but things kicked off a little bit before they got a chance.

[EvilNed]

In fact if you think about it, I'd MUCH rather be running past a group of DAWN zombies than DAY zombies....imagine those guys in the Mall, there is NO way on hell Peter and Roger would have survived that little episode with the keys outside JC Penny's. That's a nice observation. Day was so dark that I didn't think about it much. But if it was lighter, as in Dawn, then it would have been alot more obvious that these zombies are rather agile and not very slowed down. Sure they still walk. But when they spot their target they actually speed up somewhat, unlike the deadheads in Dawn.

[Philly_SWAT]

A couple more examples of Dawn zombies making noises... Right before the two kids come out of the closet, they make some weird noises. When Flyboy is fumbling for the keys in front of Pennys, there is a lot of zombies noises, and if you listen carefully, one of them says "Grrr....get 'em".

[dracenstein]

About the zombies in the cave. I always thought there were entrances/exits to the outside, remember all those vehicles and caravans in the cave? How did they get in?

[Philly_SWAT]

There is one main entrance to the cave in reality. That is not really discussed/mentioned in the movie.[IMG][/IMG]

[raym]

There is a thing that nobody told... The zombies smell very bad, no?. Their bodies stink!... Nobody can smell them before they come?. Think in this idea... True. I for one can smell a dead rat a few feet away. Sooo if there were dead bodies around, I assume the stink would be very ugly. As a PS, I notice that some zombies are "faster" than others. Tom Savini's zombie in LoTD moves with a sense of knowing as he sliced through people.

[DEAD BEAT]

This shiit has been talked about over and over again,its so simple just take yourself back to what attacted you to the genre in the first fuuuckin place! And from what i can gather for most of us it was either seeing the original Night or Dawn!!! Ready everyone? Repeat after me! "SLOW, QUIET, AND DUMB" and as an added bonus no stupid facial exprestions... remember talking about zombies here,not president Bush!

[Todd Tjersland]

Am I being perverse, but did anyone else find it odd that Rhodes and his men never tried to rape Sarah? Or that she never attempted to use her "feminine charms" to save herself? I mean Rhodes is willing to commit murder in cold blood. Where they gay or what? Rhodes clearly implied that with Miguel out of the way, it would "give some of the rest of us [meaning him specifically, but implying his men might have a chance] a shot at some lovin'." I agree that as undisciplined a bunch as Rhodes and his men were, there would have been rape attempts, and given how pussy her fellow doctors Fisher and Logan were, these attempts would have succeeded. I don't think the soldiers ever respected Miguel because he was not white; they make multiple racial slurs about Miguel every chance they get, particularly Sergeant Steel. A lot of post-apocalyptic movies (zombie or otherwise) fail to take human nature into account. Lawless situation + available, vulnerable women = rape. Not to say that all men would do so, but all it takes is one, and I don't think it would take too long before some guy decided "what the hell, I'm gonna die anyway, might as well get some before I go." I think that rape is glossed over or not addressed at all because it is considered unpleasant to portray and could affect the film's rating. I don't think Sarah would have used her feminine wiles because she was too much of an egghead feminist to even consider it. It wasn't in her character. But you can bet that a lot of other women would be using their feminine wiles to manipulate their way to safety, even with those scumbag soldiers in the bunker. Being Rhodes' woman would make you untouchable and ensure you got the best of everything... at least, until he tired of you. But if you were the only woman left in the world, that wouldn't be likely. Of course, it wouldn't be too long before Steel or one of the others got it in their head that they should kill Rhodes, take command, and get the girl. The girl could easily manipulate Steel or one of the other men into such a move if she ever became disenchanted with the good captain's treatment of her... A fact that might not be lost on even as big a jerk as Rhodes.