Where you are at the start

[clanglee]

I Then the tram. Is it automatic or human controlled? I don't know. . The monorail is human controlled. Like Disney does a good job at getting you in, but waiting in queue for the ferry to take you to the other side is a nightmare and you have a massive rush for a narrow gangplank. Really poorly designed if you ask me, and seriously out dated. . There are many transportation options. . If we are talking Magic Kingdom and you parked at the ticket center tho, I find the monorail to be much more relaible and speedy. Also, it depends on what time you leave the park. If you jet right after the fireworks. .you are leaving at the same time everyone else is. It gets really backed up. And don't forget it's a cash trap too Ahhh, but my favorite cashtrap in the world. As far as it being a deathtrap during an incident? No doubt. . but at least there are rides!!

[Thorn]

At work I feel I would be okay. I work for GE in a closed campus with fences, security guards, a water pumping station (toilets use an old fashioned set up by which they draw water from the river nearby), cars powered by propane with massive supply of this on-site. On campus power generator, construction vehicles, railroad cars, fabrication facilities with a large amount of steel and building supplies. Armed an unarmed guards, and a host of of world buildings that are very much able to withstand abuse. For example one we tried to knock down as part of a rebuilding, this was one of the oldest poured concrete buildings in the country and it wrecked the wrecking ball. No seriously.

[AcesandEights]

For example one we tried to knock down as part of a rebuilding, this was one of the oldest poured concrete buildings in the country and it wrecked the wrecking ball. "They don't build 'em like they used to," comes to mind.

[Yojimbo]

yojimbo think of it this way tho, you would be one of the first to know so, you would be able to get home and prepare. I wouldnt stick around that place when the zombies start walking around, who says they could get out of the doors? Me, I would just let my coworkers know, call 911 as you said and hightail it home. Warn as many people as you can along the way. In something like that something like that is gonna spread like wildfire. So, I say get your butt home with your family. Very sound advice. Screw it, I'm going home to protect my wife and my grandma, and if I can secure the mortuary before I leave then I will, but my family always has to be priority one for me and surviving so that I can protect them takes precedence over protecting the public at large.

[AcesandEights]

Screw it, I'm going home to protect my wife and my grandma, and if I can secure the mortuary before I leave then I will, but my family always has to be priority one for me and surviving so that I can protect them takes precedence over protecting the public at large. No way, Yo. You are a mortuary professional, by gum! Sorry, but you've seen the movies, you must have known the risks before getting into the old stiffs game. Now look lively and prepare to go down with the ship!

[Yojimbo]

No way, Yo. You are a mortuary professional, by gum! Sorry, but you've seen the movies, you must have known the risks before getting into the old stiffs game. Now look lively and prepare to go down with the ship! Too much Six-Feet-Under has made me forget! Aces, I had forgotten about the tall man and how he was a mortician too, so perhaps I do have a sacred duty here!

[Thorn]

No way, Yo. You are a mortuary professional, by gum! Sorry, but you've seen the movies, you must have known the risks before getting into the old stiffs game. Now look lively and prepare to go down with the ship! LOL... Tall Man, he was an awesome villain. Very scary, very otherworldly. but with a down to earth realistic scary air about him. And as for your other comment they really don't build them like they used to it is amazing when you think about it, if they did I think we would be paying less in insurance because they wouldn't be swept awat at the first sign of a strong wind. This place is pretty amazing there is one side that is guarded by a huge hill and I did not notice a fence it would have to be on the other side though, it is completely fortified and with good reason. We have Nuclear, Wind energy, and a number of other power systems working out of here. We have access to generators as well two on some buildings but one on most others. Large fuel reserves. In fact while i know i posted a plan for long term survival tied to another building this place is looking better and better. Hell we make turbines and wind generators. That is a constant source of energy producing material. We would just need raw material (there is tons on hand but I am talking LONG term) we we would also need good leadership, and creative thinking on fortification with the massive amount of steel we do have on site. Again the construction vehicles which are not always on site are massive cranes, backhoes, steam rollers, bucket lifts you name it we have it. I am certain all this could be leveraged into a good defense. Not to mention the fact that several of the buildings are connected by above ground enclosed walkways (like on the third floor) allowing you to move back and forth freely between buildings, then if you needed to you could destroy the bridge if you were over run in one location. We also have two cafeterias on campus one is massive and fully stocked, the other less so. Come to think of it we have satellite up links too in our data center. To quote Annie 'I think I'm gonna like it here"

[JDFP]

I think the most interesting thought in this thread is that no one has really mentioned the human factor. Zombies would certainly be bad enough, but I would personally be more afraid of hordes of crazed and scared humans than shuffling dead creatures that can't walk a mile in an hour. A person may be intelligent and may have his/her life and the respect for others in mind, but when you add in a dozen or more other people and all the sudden you have a "crowd" -- well, that's when true chaos and panic sets the stage. I think, especially at first, you'd probably have more death and chaos caused by "masses of people" than you would zombies. My personal goal if the Romero world were to come to be? Get away from all people for at least 30 days. I live on a second floor apartment and would only have to barricade one window. The outside entrance is a wooden stairwell. I thought about just chopping down the stairwell but then realized, "Yeah, me with an ax standing out here trying to chop through a stairwell? No." I would just have to seal it off well enough to not have to worry about the ghouls (or other people, which I would be more afraid of especially at first) and then sit it out for at least a month. At that time, well, you go from there. But if you want to be truly "safer", you keep to yourself or smaller groups of people you can trust. The larger the group, the more likely you're going to have some self-pronounced messiah or a small elite vanguard class evolve out of the group and start turning the individual people into "group-think" slaves to some authoritarian autocracy. You may get lonely by yourself or around just a few people, but you have less worries about being hanged for eating beyond your share of supplies in the group or breaking some "rule". If humanity is to survive after the apocalypse it will be in smaller groups of nomadic folks who have the common goal in mind. The larger the group, the more doubtful of their survival simply by ambition and people growing power-hungry. Never underestimate the power of the stupidity of the masses. j.p.

[Yojimbo]

I thought about just chopping down the stairwell but then realized, "Yeah, me with an ax standing out here trying to chop through a stairwell? No." Good decision, and I salute you for not being among those who take as gospel everything that Max Brooks put down on paper. Brooks may be a talented writer, but that ridiculous tip and the accompanying illustration showing someone destroying a staircase with an axe while standing on it makes me think that he is pretty clueless - or maybe he was intending to be funny (the book is supposedly meant to be shelved in the "humor" section after all.) I think the most interesting thought in this thread is that no one has really mentioned the human factor. Zombies would certainly be bad enough, but I would personally be more afraid of hordes of crazed and scared humans than shuffling dead creatures that can't walk a mile in an hour. A person may be intelligent and may have his/her life and the respect for others in mind, but when you add in a dozen or more other people and all the sudden you have a "crowd" -- well, that's when true chaos and panic sets the stage. Wise to be more afraid of the other survivors. Though not really touched on in this particular thread, this concept frequently comes up here and has been discussed and debated quite extensively on many previous threads and posts.