Where does Land of the Dead belong?

[MinionZombie]

Sweet, you alphabetise your DVDs too?! Some people called me obsessive, some called me crazy, but it makes damn sense. Although at uni one of my housemates decided to be a clever twat and swap a bunch of the discs around ... but I was on to him, I'd noticed several DVDs hadn't been slotted back in to be 100% in line with all the other discs, so I knew which ones had been fiddled. Crazy? OTT? Pfft - common sense people.

[EvilNed]

Then why were there not more zombies gathering to it? In Day, the entire perimeter fence was back-to-back Zeds looking for a way in. They learned they could get in that way. In Day, zombies hadn't gotten that smart yet. Another point to prove Land of the Dead is the final chapter. The entire city in Land is dead, except for Fiddler's Green. If the zombies hadn't learned, there would be millions of them at those fences. That goes to prove my point. In Day, you do not get the impression at all that there is an "outpost up in Orlando" that may still be using greenbacks as a means of trade/item acquisition. You get the impression that there is no place else in the world that has people in it. Even in Land, they weren't even sure there was an outpost down in Cleveland. There had once been, but they weren't sure it was still there. Just like they weren't sure that there was an outpost up in Washington in Day. It's pretty much the same point in both films and can't be used as proof for either case, I guess. Wouldnt it be more logical to assume that in the face of the worst catastrophy in the history of the world, a group of capable, dedicated people would be put together to enter a research facility? And that they just cracked after being there for years and years with no evidence of any other life anywhere? I mean, what would the thought process have been.... To quote the film Day of the Dead: "This is a civilian team, captain." "This operation was put together in a matter of days!" It was obviously not a very high priority project they were one. First, it was rushed. I doubt they assigned any soldiers in particular to it, and even if they did they managed to find some guys in their late thirties and early forties who were still privates? (Altough I don't think we were supposed to dwelve that deep into that) Also, again, George has already said it. Land takes place after Day. Even within the contexts within the film! I mean, the helicopter crew has just recently been exploring all sorroundings and the military guy seems awfully surprised when they tell them they didn't find anyone. This tells me that the plague hadn't been around for very long. They had still not realized that the world had ended, and they had DEFINETLY NOT been around for more than 3 years, like in Land!

[bassman]

Sweet, you alphabetise your DVDs too?! Some people called me obsessive, some called me crazy, but it makes damn sense. Although at uni one of my housemates decided to be a clever twat and swap a bunch of the discs around ... but I was on to him, I'd noticed several DVDs hadn't been slotted back in to be 100% in line with all the other discs, so I knew which ones had been fiddled. Crazy? OTT? Pfft - common sense people. You're not alone on that one, man. I do the same thing and my friends call me obsessive, also. But hell, when you get to a large number of DVDs(which I'm sure you have alot like I do), you almost have to alphabetize them in order to find something within 10 minutes. Plus I think it just looks better, somehow.

[EvilNed]

I organize mine in the name of the director... Pretty nerdy, but what the hell. Once a friend of mine moved Highlander 2 to see how long it would take before I noticed. As soon as I glanced at it, I shouted out "What the hell is Russel Malcahy doing down there?!" I felt pretty nerdy.

[roger_19]

I think that land takes place after day of the dead. sarah and the crew from day of the dead were stuck in that rocket silo. the people from fiddler's green were stuck in their city. there must have been more outposts around america but the people from those outposts were stuck just like sarah john etc.

[bassman]

I organize mine in the name of the director... Pretty nerdy, but what the hell. Once a friend of mine moved Highlander 2 to see how long it would take before I noticed. As soon as I glanced at it, I shouted out "What the hell is Russel Malcahy doing down there?!" I felt pretty nerdy. That's original, man. Never heard of anyone categorizing by director. I've got mine in alphebetical order with the exception of Romero's dead films. I had to have them all together so they're under "dead"

[MinionZombie]

1) It DOES look better doesn't it? 2) I've got over 300 DVDs now, I must post a pic of my collection. Yeh, with so many DVDs you need them alphabetised in order to find anything. That said, have you fallen into the trap of doom that is standing in front of your epic collection trying to find something to watch, but you just don't want to watch anything. So you stand there for over ten minutes just staring ... then you decide to watch TV. The number of times I've done that... Although strangely, I've got Smith's "Jersey Trilogy" (Clerks through Strike Back) sitting together completely serpate. I don't really know why...and I have a separate place for my DVD box sets of shows like A-Team, Futurama, Married With Children, Viva La Bam and any film boxsets.

[Philly_SWAT]

To quote the film Day of the Dead: "This is a civilian team, captain." "This operation was put together in a matter of days!" How many days would it take to put together a team of 18 people? Seems like that could be accomplished in a matter of minutes, unless you were looking for the right people. Military guys that would understand and acept the fact that they were there to facilitate the researach team, not run the show. It was obviously not a very high priority project they were one. What else do you think had higher priority at the time, traffic pattern studies? First, it was rushed. What do you expect? The whole world is going to hell in a handbasket. I would hope someone would act quickly. But to the main point....whether the pre-onscreen events in Day started around the time of Dawn or well after, I say that is irrelevant to where in "GAR time" the team in Day is. Even if the bunker was first populated around the start of Dawn, it would take a long time to round up so many "specimens", and the research team would take a very long time setting the groundwork in their studies. If they were in contact with Washington at the time by radio, surely there was no rush to "go out and find survivors". There would have to be other teams assigned to that task. The only thing our heros should have been doing was conducting research to solve the problem. How long in real life have our scientists been looking for a cure to cancer? Any luck yet? Do you think scientists would give up after a few months, with the entire survival of the human species on the line, or do you think they would try until they die? The only reason for the military guys being there would be to help collect specimens and protect the research team. By the time the movie starts, 6 people have already died. The military guys, who I say must have been half-way decent at the least when the events started, are now half crazy, power hungry, and scared. One of the researchers has taken to flying around randomly looking for survivors. Now, doesnt Sarah seem the most sane, level-headed of them all? Why would she abandon her all-important research and just go out flying around? Because she had gone crazy? No. Cause she didnt care anymore? No. Then why? Perhaps she had been at the research for so long, like more than 3 years, and with no contact with Washington, and little to no progress in the research, she was looking for others who may have some crucial info to help her out. I cant think of any other reason why she would be out, unless she was looking for "lots of real estate at close out prices, man". When you think logically about these events and the motivations behind them, it only makes sense that they were in that facility for a long. long time.

[bassman]

1) It DOES look better doesn't it? 2) I've got over 300 DVDs now, I must post a pic of my collection. Yeh, with so many DVDs you need them alphabetised in order to find anything. That said, have you fallen into the trap of doom that is standing in front of your epic collection trying to find something to watch, but you just don't want to watch anything. So you stand there for over ten minutes just staring ... then you decide to watch TV. The number of times I've done that... Although strangely, I've got Smith's "Jersey Trilogy" (Clerks through Strike Back) sitting together completely serpate. I don't really know why...and I have a separate place for my DVD box sets of shows like A-Team, Futurama, Married With Children, Viva La Bam and any film boxsets. Oh yeah, I've stood in front of my dvd racks for a loooong time. I guess it's pretty sad when you have over a wall full of dvds and you can't choose something to watch. I thought the "Jersey Trilogy" was over with "Chasing Amy"? I don't own many TV shows....just "Monty Python's Flying Circus", a few "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" seasons, and some "Mystery Science Theater 3000" boxed sets.

[MinionZombie]

As far as I'm aware that's part of the humour of it being called a "trilogy" - or more aptly the Jay & Silent Bob saga ... mind you, roll on Clerks 2 bitches! 5 films instead of 3...that's what I thought it was anyway...maybe I was high on crack at the time or something, damn that Tyrone!

[LoneCrusader]

Actually, I find that it makes no sense to me. In Day of the Dead, Dr. Logan estimated that the humans were outnumbered 400,000 to 1. Now if there was a city in Pittsburgh with 1 million people, that would have to mean that the United States had 400 billion people, and that's impossible. Maybe Dr. Logan was wrong, or that was a zombie-to-human ratio of florida or southern florida. Somebody make some sort of sense out of this.

[AcesandEights]

A million people?!

[EvilNed]

How many days would it take to put together a team of 18 people? Seems like that could be accomplished in a matter of minutes, unless you were looking for the right people. Military guys that would understand and acept the fact that they were there to facilitate the researach team, not run the show. Exactly. A matter of minutes. This was a hasty operation, which is why the soldiers aren't top-notch. What else do you think had higher priority at the time, traffic pattern studies?What do you expect? The whole world is going to hell in a handbasket. I would hope someone would act quickly. Getting a non-civilian team, or several, would obviously be of a higher priority. This was a low-priority mission with civilians and not alot of manpower. But to the main point....whether the pre-onscreen events in Day started around the time of Dawn or well after, I say that is irrelevant to where in "GAR time" the team in Day is. It wouldn't take that long to round up specimens, because they would probably start doing so right away. I don't see why this should take a longtime? A week, at most! And the mere thought of these guys just sitting around in their bunker for three years, having little to no radio contact with other people and watching the zombies bang on their chainlink fence, and STILL not going out to look for survivors (despite their helicopters... I wonder what John did the first two and a half years in the bunker!) just doesn't hold water. To me, they all seem surprised at the fact that they find nobody, and they even thought that the amount of zombies banging at their fence were "many" and that their numbers were growing for each day. That means they probably hadn't been holed up for that long.

[strayrider]

In this situation it's all about where Romero wants these movies to fall in the "timeline". He's already stated in an interview Land is a completely new spin on his zombie sage (I suppose this means that it can take place in an alternative universe in which the events in Night, Dawn and Day never happened at all?) However, based on specific times mentioned in the films and in various interviews I've read over the years, I can come up with a rough timeline. Night -- Memorial Day in 19xx Dawn -- three weeks weeks per Dr. Foster Land -- two, or three years, based on Cholo's comments to Kaufman "I've done your dirty work for the last xx years, blah blah blah" Sorry, I didn't go back and review my copy of Land for the exact number. Day -- five years per GAR in an interview for Fangoria magazine back in 85' or '86, something to the extent of "These guys have been down in the bunker for five years and they're going a little crazy". I've based this on my personal memories, and in my case, these may be faulty. For myself, I'll take the films in this order for my viewing enjoyment and when the sequal to Land comes out, I'll find a place for it too. -stray-