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    yea i was being a little sarcastic with that, that is the scene I was speaking of, Day is my fav film of the original trilogy, but really to expect the water system to still be operational for such an extended amount of time is almost as far of a stretch as.....well as the dead rising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Snack View Post
    yea i was being a little sarcastic with that, that is the scene I was speaking of, Day is my fav film of the original trilogy, but really to expect the water system to still be operational for such an extended amount of time is almost as far of a stretch as.....well as the dead rising.
    Ah...no... Even standard military bases have there own power/water and sewer. Let alone military fallout/bunkers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trin View Post
    The water fountain in Day was still working. Sarah got a cool drink of water from it on camera.
    Yeah, I think zombie snack was poking fun at that scene in his post.

    However, like another post on here states, I think the shelter in Day would be self sufficient and obviously equipped to deal with apocalyptic events so running water does not surprise me.

    As far as decomposition from maggots down to microscopic microbes Day puts forth the theory of a slow rot "as long as 10 years" and Max Brooks' books take it further by stating that the slow rot is caused by the disease which is repellant to any living organism.

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    Just thought of something,
    This facility in Day was set up for the scientists to study and come up with a solution to the undead crisis. Even at the very outset the people who sent them there would've been aware that the nature of the undead was highly infectious. Even if they didn't understand the exact why or how.

    That said, why was there no sign of any security measures to prevent a catastrophic breach in the event that say, one of the scientists tasked with studying the undead made a mistake and got infected, or if an accident on the surface compromised the fenceline that seemed to be their first and last line of surface defense against the undead.

    I mean we're talking realism right? I can accept the fence being all they had because of the undoubtedly rushed nature of their base setup/mission, but that the main entrance/exit to the surface had no built-in security beggars the imagination.

    Forget the zombies for a second. It's an underground military base. How many of those have you heard of that all you need do to gain access to the main facility is push a single button?

    Walmart warehouses have more security than that. Requiring a turned key to be inserted and remain there as long as you want the supply lifts to run. Even such a simple security measure would've prevented Miguel's betrayal.

    Sure, they were rushed in setting up, and didn't have access to ideal working conditions because of the spreading undead population. Still, you'd think they'd have found somewhere with at least as much security as a standard army base.

    Just a thought. Never occurred to me before to question why it was so easy to open the base up to zombie invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post

    God's way of stalling mother nature and punishing us for trying to "figure his shit out"
    Nah, it was because he didn't want to see us blow a big hole in his sky.
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    Actually he thought we were getting to big for our britches...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldwraith View Post
    It's an underground military base.
    I guess this raises the question. What kind of facility was the Day bunker? We saw what appeared to be an empty missile silo. The rest was a commercial underground storage facility.

    I think it is clear that it was not a functioning military base. They had no military vehicles. No military radio or communication center (beyond the WWII stuff Bill mentions). No security measures. A scant dozen or so military personnel who didn't appear to be permanently stationed there.

    The facility appeared to be a bit more outfitted for a scientific research team. The labs appeared to have sinks and cabinets similar to a medical office or lab. There was more medical equipment than military. But even that was scant compared to what you'd find in a CDC or hospital.

    Maybe the site was chosen purely for its isolation and because it had once been a military facility, not because it was a military base or research lab at present?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldwraith View Post
    ...that the nature of the undead was highly infectious.
    I don't know if I agree with "highly infectious" considering it was only transmitted by bite. If a normal human had a condition of the same level of communicability they wouldn't be treated special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldwraith View Post
    Just thought of something,
    This facility in Day was set up for the scientists to study and come up with a solution to the undead crisis. Even at the very outset the people who sent them there would've been aware that the nature of the undead was highly infectious. Even if they didn't understand the exact why or how.

    That said, why was there no sign of any security measures to prevent a catastrophic breach in the event that say, one of the scientists tasked with studying the undead made a mistake and got infected, or if an accident on the surface compromised the fenceline that seemed to be their first and last line of surface defense against the undead.

    I mean we're talking realism right? I can accept the fence being all they had because of the undoubtedly rushed nature of their base setup/mission, but that the main entrance/exit to the surface had no built-in security beggars the imagination.

    Forget the zombies for a second. It's an underground military base. How many of those have you heard of that all you need do to gain access to the main facility is push a single button?

    Walmart warehouses have more security than that. Requiring a turned key to be inserted and remain there as long as you want the supply lifts to run. Even such a simple security measure would've prevented Miguel's betrayal.

    Sure, they were rushed in setting up, and didn't have access to ideal working conditions because of the spreading undead population. Still, you'd think they'd have found somewhere with at least as much security as a standard army base.

    Just a thought. Never occurred to me before to question why it was so easy to open the base up to zombie invasion.
    Wlyd, you are putting today's thinking to so many years ago's reality. We didn't have all the gadgets and stuff like we do now.
    When DAY was made if there were such things the general public wouldn't be aware of it so moviemakers wouldn't have the knowledge to put it in their films.
    I see what you are saying about security measures but as I recall and it's been awhile since I watched DAY,but, as I remember a lot of the soldiers were killed during the outbreak.
    Although, I would think there would be better fencing than they had in the movie to keep the zombies out? or keep the perimeter way away from where the opening to the shelter was located. In the movie they were much to close to where they had the helio in my opinion. That just don't seem right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CooperWasRight View Post
    Actually he thought we were getting to big for our britches...
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    I've always thought that the bunker/mine in Day is the same in the movie as it is in real life. A storage facility with office space. Storage facility explains the campers, rvs, and such while office space explains the halls and make shift labs.

    This doesn't really explain the missile silo, but I just figure that the gubment stored it there. They have those things everywhere, anyway...

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    Isn't it supposed to be an abandoned missile silo, that was being used as a storage facility?

    That's the way I've always seen it.
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