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    It's funny. If the original Star Trek appeared out of nowhere today, the "anti woke" crusaders would be melting down into the ground harder than Chernobyl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Dude, I'm beginning to worry about you. You see some supposed "wokeness" everywhere. And in Star Trek? Have you even seen TOS? First interracial kiss? Commie-economics? Obvious marxist fables? Geez, man. This is getting out of hand.
    Considerable thought and effort went into putting that footage into that episode... So again... (1) People actually decided anti-Biden protests is symbolic of an apocalypse, (2) People decided this was a good thing to put in the pilot episode of a new TV show, and decided that footage of atomic bombs or cities on fire wasn't more befitting for an apocalypse montage.

    So, if you believe when showing a montage representing an apocalypse on earth, that choosing to use footage of people basically holding anti-biden flags is a sensible, fair and productive representation of that horror, fair enough. But for me it's just representative of some of the questionable agendas at play at the moment.

    Yep, it's only 2-3 seconds of footage... But yet more needless frog boiling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Considerable thought and effort went into putting that footage into that episode... So again... (1) People actually decided anti-Biden protests is symbolic of an apocalypse, (2) People decided this was a good thing to put in the pilot episode of a new TV show, and decided that footage of atomic bombs or cities on fire wasn't more befitting for an apocalypse montage.

    So, if you believe when showing a montage representing an apocalypse on earth, that choosing to use footage of people basically holding anti-biden flags is a sensible, fair and productive representation of that horror, fair enough. But for me it's just representative of some of the questionable agendas at play at the moment.

    Yep, it's only 2-3 seconds of footage... But yet more needless frog boiling...
    Uhm, no. You're just reading way too much into this. In fact, the footage itself is completely in line with Star Trek, and specifically how modern Star Trek interprets modern events. But this Woke-boogie-man you keep seeing everywhere... If you think this feels "out of character" for Star Trek, then you must not have been very aware of what Star Trek was to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Uhm, no. You're just reading way too much into this. In fact, the footage itself is completely in line with Star Trek, and specifically how modern Star Trek interprets modern events. But this Woke-boogie-man you keep seeing everywhere... If you think this feels "out of character" for Star Trek, then you must not have been very aware of what Star Trek was to begin with.
    We'll have to agree to disagree then. ie: You're suggesting people waving anti-Biden placards is a good choice to represent the horror/cause of an apocalypse. I'd suggest that's a very niche and specific choice (for ulterior motives) because there's obviously a plethora of more appropriate and clearly less partisan footage such as cities on fire or mass riots and looting that clearly would have been more befitting.

    But... Horses... Courses...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    We'll have to agree to disagree then. ie: You're suggesting people waving anti-Biden placards is a good choice to represent the horror/cause of an apocalypse. I'd suggest that's a very niche and specific choice (for ulterior motives) because there's obviously a plethora of more appropriate and clearly less partisan footage such as cities on fire or mass riots and looting that clearly would have been more befitting.
    It did not represent horror or cause of an apocalypse to me. It was clearly trying to display a society torn in half by civil unrest... But whatever, I can tell somebody called Woke-busters.

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    OK... Ep4, easily the best so far for me.

    Going to be interesting to see what the Gorn look like Hopefully just a smidge better than Kirk's version

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    OK... Ep4, easily the best so far for me.

    Going to be interesting to see what the Gorn look like Hopefully just a smidge better than Kirk's version
    I hear that they are gay and black now.

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    Clearly one thing we can deduce is the Gorn have a far longer lifespan than humans...

    I mean look at this. The Gorn hasn't aged a bit!!!

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    I liked Episode 4.
    However, I've started to get a bit annoyed by the continuous banter of Ortega, Uhura and Chapel. Ortega in particular is snappy, unprofessional and speaks out in snarky remarks in a way that no bridge officer should ever do... These are people who went to the most prestigious military academy on earth and qualified to serve of the Flagship of the federation. Act like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I liked Episode 4.
    However, I've started to get a bit annoyed by the continuous banter of Ortega, Uhura and Chapel. Ortega in particular is snappy, unprofessional and speaks out in snarky remarks in a way that no bridge officer should ever do... These are people who went to the most prestigious military academy on earth and qualified to serve of the Flagship of the federation. Act like it.
    True... But I guess if they all acted like cookie cutter robots, it could get a bit bland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    True... But I guess if they all acted like cookie cutter robots, it could get a bit bland?
    A series set on a vulcan science vessel would probably not feature very interesting relationships, No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    A series set on a vulcan science vessel would probably not feature very interesting relationships, No.
    The tension peak of that episode being four characters all eyebrow raising at the same moment? WOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    The tension peak of that episode being four characters all eyebrow raising at the same moment? WOW!


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    Episode 5! Best one yet. Loved that it dared to focus on relationships and light hearted humor rather than the action adventure heavy episodes that preceded it

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