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    What the f*ck is Harold Perrinou doing in this? Isn't this leagues below him?

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    Gotta disagree with the majority,
    Having watched the first couple episodes I've found it moderately entertaining. Yes, one could argue they're ripping off TWD...and the characters have yet to make enough individual impression for me to remember their names...but the zombies look good, behave right (for the most part)...the zombie kills are well done. (And I really dig the spiked bat the chick has. Was bummed when it looked like she was going to sacrifice it to jam the machine and felt like cheering when the explosion threw it back to where she could recover it in an incredible improbable series of events.)

    Is it anywhere near TWD-quality? Absolutely not. Can it be a fun 60 minutes if you don't insist on holding it to that standard? I believe so. I like the general mission better than the TWD version with Abraham and what not. Maybe because it's their primary impetus and doesn't feel like an interruption in the lives of TWD survivors. Dunno.

    Take it for what it is and have fun with it. There isn't much that's remotely watchable on TV these days.

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    If I see it on UK TV I'll try and watch it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldwraith View Post
    Gotta disagree with the majority,
    Having watched the first couple episodes I've found it moderately entertaining. Yes, one could argue they're ripping off TWD...and the characters have yet to make enough individual impression for me to remember their names...but the zombies look good, behave right (for the most part)...the zombie kills are well done. (And I really dig the spiked bat the chick has. Was bummed when it looked like she was going to sacrifice it to jam the machine and felt like cheering when the explosion threw it back to where she could recover it in an incredible improbable series of events.)

    Is it anywhere near TWD-quality? Absolutely not. Can it be a fun 60 minutes if you don't insist on holding it to that standard? I believe so. I like the general mission better than the TWD version with Abraham and what not. Maybe because it's their primary impetus and doesn't feel like an interruption in the lives of TWD survivors. Dunno.

    Take it for what it is and have fun with it. There isn't much that's remotely watchable on TV these days.
    Totally agree!!
    Get that damn screwdriver out of my head!

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    Alright fine, you've convinced me, I'll give it a chance, geez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Question: Do you think the same budget, time and effort, in better hands, could have produced something better?
    Well, sure, but we're not aiming for High Art here. Walking Dead already handles the dramatic elements just fine. This is just wacky cheap zombie goodness. And that's just fine.

    As far as money, time & effort, that could have gone to feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless. Just sayin'....
    Those aren't real problems, Sam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
    Well, sure, but we're not aiming for High Art here. Walking Dead already handles the dramatic elements just fine. This is just wacky cheap zombie goodness. And that's just fine.

    As far as money, time & effort, that could have gone to feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless. Just sayin'....
    Somewhat of a Strawman IMHO.

    The Asylum basically leech off other people's talent and ideas and brazenly piss the results up a wall. They clearly have the production techiques and budget to produce something worthwhile/solid, but instead aim safe and low and hit bang on target each time.

    That said, I've not seen this series...
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    I really wanted to like this series and it has good things in it. From time to time we see glimpses of that, the snarky guy with phobia of zombies that have to be escorted across USA, the culture that have grown up around living after the zombie apocalypse and good actors and characters all around.

    However: The show is too uneven in presentation and story. The zombies have no consistency, sometimes they are runners sometimes they are walkers sometimes they are tough sometimes they are extremely weak. And there are also intelligent baby zombies who get MORE locomotion after they turn and even animals can be zombies.
    There are also alot of freshly dead people around who just happen to be gnawed on by zombs just as the characters drive by. Gotta have that gore factor one way or another!
    The mood is uneven, the crossing of USA after the zombie apocalypse is a great idea but the abundance of humour and cheesy gross out moments takes away from the horror. And horror is what I watch the show for.
    The "rush" the show has to get to the "cool" moment really hurt it imo.
    Also the main character of sorts is a lone soldier trapped in an arctic communication base, with the still operating satellite system he has enormous resources to his disposition but solitude take its toll on his mental health. However this is again presented without any mood or build up. And it is soon solved anyway. It is just a guy sitting in a room we never feel the isolation, even though they do have other rooms in the base that they show! Also way to much time is spent on this character trying to get someone on the phone or finding someone on the radio when there is other more interesting things going on in the show.
    Finally the music is rockabilly and they try to use the musical picture to create a weary and tough tone. It falls flat for me atleast.
    The show also passes off the characters as being cooler than they actually are way to soon, "coolfactor" is built up and even though the characters have potential to get there but the show is pushing them too soon too fast. The dude in the arctic base suffer the most from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trencher View Post
    And there are also intelligent baby zombies...
    Well, that's it for me so.

    FFS.
    I'm runnin' this monkey farm now Frankenstein.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    Well, that's it for me so.

    FFS.
    I ducked out at just "Asylum".
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    Well, caught Ep1 on t'interwebs today.
    Trencher has basically covered all the points exactly as I saw them, so I won't repeat.
    Kinda reminded me of how my 6 yr old plays with his lego sometimes - potentially good
    model gets thrown down the stairs for no reason with no intent than instant dramatic
    effect fine sometimes ... all the time not so good.

    It's worth a watch if you have nothing else to do and you are bored, that's it really.

    and yeh, Z babies with super skills ... FFS exactly
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    It's shit, that is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldwraith View Post
    Gotta disagree with the majority,
    Having watched the first couple episodes I've found it moderately entertaining. Yes, one could argue they're ripping off TWD...and the characters have yet to make enough individual impression for me to remember their names...but the zombies look good, behave right (for the most part)...the zombie kills are well done. (And I really dig the spiked bat the chick has. Was bummed when it looked like she was going to sacrifice it to jam the machine and felt like cheering when the explosion threw it back to where she could recover it in an incredible improbable series of events.)

    Is it anywhere near TWD-quality? Absolutely not. Can it be a fun 60 minutes if you don't insist on holding it to that standard? I believe so. I like the general mission better than the TWD version with Abraham and what not. Maybe because it's their primary impetus and doesn't feel like an interruption in the lives of TWD survivors. Dunno.

    Take it for what it is and have fun with it. There isn't much that's remotely watchable on TV these days.
    I agree! I had a blast watching a few episodes this weekend and will definitely follow the series onwards. I don't know if it'll last past season 1, but it's fun.

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    Well ive watched all of them so far and while the acting is pretty bad & cheesy i think the zombies are quite good and its a bit of fun.
    Get that damn screwdriver out of my head!

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    I deleted the first episode after the first five minutes, but then re-recorded it later figuring I'd give it a try. Bizarrely enough, it's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. I like that they "know" about zombie movies. Seems more like the bunch of us rather than the WD folks who have no clue. One thing I really like is that they show people listening to the radio. Doesn't anyone in TWD (other than Merle) listen to music??? (Rick, when he was farming, but that's about it) Also, the use of the USB solar charger. YES!!!!! I'd be digging around looking for one in every house.

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