'The Hobbit' - Yes! Yes! Yes!

[Danny]

**** yeah, i dont know who else could pull off gandalf as well as ian mckellen does.

[axlish]

Now they just need to lock up Hugo Weaving as Elrond and John Rhys Davies as Gimli's father (was it Glowin? I forget). I guess Arwen could make an appearance. I guess Ian Holm is too old now, but his portrayal of Bilbo was awesome. A young Dudley Moore would have been perfect, as well as a young Michael J. Fox.

[Neil]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7375245.stm

[Mike70]

so if the second movie is going to tell the story of the 60 years between hobbit and fellowship that raises a plethora of possibilities. you could take that in so many directions - the story of aragorn (with a younger actor playing aragorn) and the rangers intertwined with his meeting arwen, along with the story of gandalf, the dissolution of the white council, and sarumans growing obsession with the ring. many, many possibilites.

[axlish]

According to studio New Line, the first film will be an adaptation of The Hobbit and the second will be an original story focusing on the 60 years between the book and the beginning of the Rings trilogy. AWESOME!

[Neil]

so if the second movie is going to tell the story of the 60 years between hobbit and fellowship that raises a plethora of possibilities. you could take that in so many directions - the story of aragorn (with a younger actor playing aragorn) and the rangers intertwined with his meeting arwen, along with the story of gandalf, the dissolution of the white council, and sarumans growing obsession with the ring. many, many possibilites. It starts to get scary though! We might end up with a contrived mess like the new Star Wars films - desperately trying to try the threads together between two fabrics, one new and one old...

[axlish]

It starts to get scary though! We might end up with a contrived mess like the new Star Wars films - desperately trying to try the threads together between two fabrics, one new and one old... Hopefully there is enough written word to flesh out the years. I'm not sure what exists though, and hell, what would be the climax to part 2?

[Danny]

oh then they gotta have tom bombadil in it

[Mike70]

Hopefully there is enough written word to flesh out the years. I'm not sure what exists though, and hell, what would be the climax to part 2? most of the stuff that would comprise part 2 would be from the timelines in the appendices to return of the king or from the "tale of aragorn and arwen" also included in the appendices of return of the king. personally, i'd love to see a movie (or series of movies or mini-series) about the second age that specifically focuses on numenor, culminating in the founding of gondor and arnor and the struggle against sauron that took place in the second age. the numenoreans are by far (in my humble opinion) some of the most interesting people in the whole middle earth cycle.

[Neil]

Viggo Mortensen in The Hobbit!? Well the second film thing they're talking about which isn't actually the Hobbit, but is part of the Hobbit production... Oh I'm confused! http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Viggo...bbit-8896.html

[clanglee]

Bah!! Not excited about that second movie. Seems like it will be all the parts I fast foward through in the current trilogy. Every flashback to Aragorn and Arwen, just makes me cringe.

[Neil]

Bah!! Not excited about that second movie. Seems like it will be all the parts I fast foward through in the current trilogy. Every flashback to Aragorn and Arwen, just makes me cringe. Yeh, those plot bits can get a bit difficult to follow and all

[clanglee]

Plot hell!!! There is a reason those bits were thrown into the apendixes in the novel. Boring and sappy. Bleh.

[Neil]

Plot hell!!! There is a reason those bits were thrown into the apendixes in the novel. Boring and sappy. Bleh. I enjoyed it... Without that, other elements of the film wouldn't have stood so well. For example when Elrond was trying to diswade Arwen from her relationship with Aragorn (due to his mortality etc) - You had to see a reason for her to throw away so much. ie: Their feelings for each other. Now, if this had been a Hollywood film they would have simply cut the scenes you're refering to, and thrown in a single scene with the couple having sex to show the depth of their love for each other. Remember the beginning of Dawn 04? (That sort of cheep writing/scripting!) Now given cheep Hollywood approach, or some decent writing/scripting and plot (as we saw in LOTRs), I'd prefer the latter personally...

[clanglee]

Don't get me wrong, I understand why it was in the movie. I just can't stand those particular scenes. Boring and sappy, as I said. Now how exactly was LOTR not a hollywood movie?