The plot of 'Land'..

[MinionZombie]

S&D - I have thought about it, but not that much - my point being - it's all rather obvious once you engage your brain for even a couple of minutes. *puts on Logan voice* "Think about it ... think." Right! Pitch forks out! Let's get him!!!! * red neck mode off * Damn straight! RAAAAAARGGGGHHHH!!!! *charges into battle* I'm also with Capn, I'm dumbfounded as to why some of you lot are having such a hard time 'getting' the use of money, especially when the likes of me and Bassman have laid it out - in bullet points no less - time and again. I mean christ on a diet!

[S&Dproductions]

MZ - The question should not even be asked twice because a monetary system is in engraved in all of society. Without some kind of monetary system there is no society. Although if **** went down, it go back the barter system.

[Dead Hoosier]

In such a situation -- a total collapse of society -- it would go back to a trading system ... every man/woman for himself. The first thing to lose its value would be cash. The only things that would still have value would be commodities and human life. Anyone trying to hold the remaining population hostage would've been killed --namely Kaufman. People are for the most part sheep, but it just wouldn't go down that way, not in the U.S. and with so many having guns. Since it looked like there were only a few thousand survivors, a town the size of Pittsburgh -- based on canned goods alone -- would support the population for a LONG time. Once the stores were depleated, you could go house-to-house, appartment-to-appartment, business-to-business. You'd just have to hope you made it to the drug dealers' pad first

[Neil]

The first thing to lose its value would be cash. Afraid you're wrong there! In the event of a complete collapse of society, the first thing to lose its value are mime artists!

[Dead Hoosier]

LOL ... and stop signs/lights!

[Legion2213]

Afraid you're wrong there! In the event of a complete collapse of society, the first thing to lose its value are mime artists! Lollipop ladies. Lollipop ladies will take a big hit in a zombie apocalypse.

[Mike70]

the thing that has bothered me about the cash issue since i saw the movie was kaufman's attempted escape. he takes bundles of cash but not much else. where the f8ck is he gonna go? k-mart?? macy's??? my other point is: if the old world turned out to be giant death trip, don't imitate it. start over. do away with everything that came before and really think hard about the society you want to build.

[Legion2213]

the thing that has bothered me about the cash issue since i saw the movie was kaufman's attempted escape. he takes bundles of cash but not much else. where the f8ck is he gonna go? k-mart?? macy's??? my other point is: if the old world turned out to be giant death trip, don't imitate it. start over. do away with everything that came before and really think hard about the society you want to build. I'll never buy into the cash thing, it's just stupid... Picture the scene... Kaufman manages to escape Smart Daddy and his brainy zeds, he runs across a group of survivors when his limo runs out of gas, he sends his butler to ask them for shelter and some petrol, the survivors ask if he can pull his weight, trade any ammo, medical suplies, survival gear or be useful to their group, he says "no, but I will give you a hundred dollars", survivors tell him to piss off. The End

[MoonSylver]

He did mention that he had other places set up for them to go. There are mentions made of other outposts like theirs, so this apparently is not a unique situation. The money thing initially didn't make sense to me either, because we're used to thinking of the post dead world in terms of the total collapse society. What we're seeing here is a REBUILT society (such as it is). One which is attempting to rebuild itself in the EXACT image of the old one, which DOESN'T make sense & ISN'T going to work. Hence the message of the movie.

[sandrock74]

Cash is King! Too many people will NEVER let the concept of cash go. Even if it has no practical value, there will still be people who will want it. Prostitution would probably be the big commodity to be exchanged in a post apocalypse/zombie world. It is said to be the worlds oldest profession after all! It probably wouldn't be until the next generation rolls around that cash would really loose its value. Those kids, as they grow into adults, would never have had a need for cash, so it will be worthless to them. They would be the ones to put the final nail in the coffin of the cash economy.

[MinionZombie]

S&D - an interesting thing comes to mind. No doubt in Fiddler's Green, it'd be an entirely monetary system. But in the slums surrounding it, it'd be a mix I think - because they have limited cash, they'd no doubt have to resort to bartering/trading/favours in addition to see it through. Also, the people that don't "get" the use of money (which I find unfathomable, because it's plainly quite simple when you put a tiny amount of thought into it, as I've bullet pointed above and before numerous times) - they can find plenty of reasons why money in that society wouldn't work (many of which are flawed theories, hence my retorts), but they're not bothering (as it seems to me) to look for reasons why it does work in their society - and it's precisely that, the reasons it does work, that it is used. It won't be perfect, and there will be flaws given certain situations, but it's the best option. It's what they know and understand, it retains value to them, it's a system that's already established, and it's also a device by GAR to use in his story - these people forgetting about the zombies and getting back to normal life, as well as what people will do to money, how important it is to them, and how deluded they are as a result. Meanwhile, Riley, he doesn't care about money. What's valuable to him is a gun, a car, and a quiet place to live. But that's him, most others (mainly in FG itself), just want the cash and the material goods. See, this is one of the reasons I love Land - there's so much to think about and get into, as a fan (and yes, nerd), after you've viewed it. Not just "oh it's gay" or whatever (which is lame), but proper analysis - the sort of deep analysis that the previous entries have given.

[Neil]

Lollipop ladies. Lollipop ladies will take a big hit in a zombie apocalypse. At least they have a pretty effective weapon!

[Danny]

At least they have a pretty effective weapon! oooh snnnnnnnnnnap!- theres a grindhouse trailer in that "She was once a martial artist, trained in 19 styles of martial arts, 4 of which are dead ,forbidden arts. now shes gotta help these kids cross the road from hell to safety, with her sharpened circular signblade against - BIG TITTED WEREWOLF BITCHES!....rated pg-13" BEST 10,000TH POST. EVER.

[Trin]

it's all rather obvious once you engage your brain for even a couple of minutes. I'm dumbfounded as to why some of you lot are having such a hard time 'getting' the use of money, especially when the likes of me and Bassman have laid it out - in bullet points no less - time and again ...because it's plainly quite simple when you put a tiny amount of thought into it, as I've bullet pointed above and before numerous times I respectfully take exception to the notion that those who disagree with your analysis haven't thought about it and don't understand it. I think you've stated your analysis well and thoughtfully, have presented some good points, and have done a good and accurate job of summarizing GAR's intent behind the use of money. I don't think you could make a better argument for why money works in Land. And yet I am still not convinced. Focusing on why money *does* work and avoiding the arguments why it doesn't is fine to form your own opinion, but it isn't good enough to declare that your bullet points are self-evident. You have to address the key components of why money in Land *doesn't* work to declare it "quite simple." Furthermore, your arguments rely on key assumptions about human nature and the realities of money and looting and such that I don't think everyone considers obvious, or even agree with.

[Wooley]

Other things that made no sense to me about land were the lack of secondary defenses in case of a breach in the main wall, the electric fence in general (a Hesco bastion wall or like would have made more sense, for the exact reason in the film-deadies get in, live folks can't climb the wall, and electricity doesn't kill zombies, and that's electricity powering the fence that can be used elsewhere, like a hospital) and the generally ****ty training of the city's soldiers-firing full auto from the hip when you know damn well only a well aimed shot to the head will bring them down, especially in a world where the ammo plants aren't running anymore just reeks of poor writing.