 Originally Posted by MinionZombie
I've found with the Moderna that the flu-like side effects come and go on-and-off for a couple of days. Last night I was a bit headachey with mild and brief moments of dizziness, which is all standard. So far feeling normal for a Saturday morning now.
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The trouble with news now is that it has itself become politicised and has been that way for many, many years. This is obviously most prevalent in America with Fox News and CNN being as bad as each other (although Fox News is more obviously disgusting to an almost cartoonish degree, while CNN is more subtle in how deep its bias runs), but this all extends to the much wider conversation of how information about the pandemic has been put out there. Here in the UK the communication with the public has been piss poor to say the least, with BoJo and his class of clowns making a total bodge job of the whole thing.
For example - when masks were in low supply, instead of having medical people question their validity completely, just be honest with the public that we didn't have enough but more will be coming and in the time being they were needed for key workers while everyone else stayed at home and sat on their arse wanking off to Netflix. Naturally, such a thing should have been announced after securing/procuring as many masks as possible while simultaneously finding appropriate producers for suitable masks for the public to buy en masse once the first lockdown was over (and companies actually capable of it, not mates of the goverment). The way they actually did it automatically put a question mark on masks (yes, they're not 100%, but they do help - coughs and sneezes spread diseases is still a thing - and every little helps towards the main goal), and made them look like liars at worst or dopes at best, in-turn putting a question mark on anything they said.
Then of course we've got the latest thing with No. 10 have Xmas shindigs in 2020 while telling the public to not do exactly that - and then the police say they won't investigate, while prosecuting (rightfully so) people who disobeyed the rules that were put in place for public health reasons. I recall a story in January about a family that ignored the advice, had their Xmas, but were then decimated by Covid and lost multiple loved ones.
The pandemic has been allowed to become a political issue, rather than a public health issue ... and that's pretty fucked up. Mind you, Joe Public is as much to blame for that shit as any government or social media platform.
"Xmas shindigs" - And that's of course just one example of many. There was the classic COP26, where there's footage of leaders walking to a photo shoot shoulder to shoulder, getting ready by putting masks on, only then, once the photo is over, taking the masks off. Or Boris sitting unmasked next to 95yr old David Attenborough. And we need only consider the Queen following the restrictions and the insanity of her having to sit alone at the funeral of her husband.
Masks and lockdowns are little more than political theater and achieve little more than to allow politicians to virtue signal they've taken measures, even if those measure have minimal positive effects, all the while risking huge negative ones... (IMHO)
Another good example of the media agenda was the online poll Good Morning Britain posted this week asking if mandatory vaccination was a good idea. About 45,000 people voted with about 90% saying "no"... The poll was removed. 
ps: Think we'll need to disagree on Fox and CNN...
Originally Posted by Neil
Sure... The trend mentioned has been going on for months, and can be seen for example in the 'Government surveillance reports'. The last one I looked at was last month - https://assets.publishing.service.go..._-_week_45.pdf
If you look at page 22 you can see figures per 100,000 the number of people in hospital requiring emergency care, who are vaccinated vs who are not vaccinated. If you look at say 30-39yr olds, vaccinated outnumber unvaccinated by over 400% (17.3 vs 4.1).
This trend has been going on so long, and is so obvious, they've even started mentioning it in the report itself, and now question the reason(s). But whatever the cause, the continued demonisation of unvaccinated people for supposedly spreading the disease, or putting pressure on the health system, if not unfounded, is seemingly out of all logical proportion.
NOTE1: On Good Morning Britain a couple of times this week they've openly lied saying 80-90% of people in hospital with covid are unvaccinated. This narrative (misinformation) gets picked up and run with. Should be an OFCOM issue TBH.
NOTE2: Last month I tried posting a similar comment and link (as above) on a YouTube discussion. It was soon removed by YT, due to "wrong think"? No doubt if I'd instead posted 80-90% of folks in hospital with covid were unvaccinated that would have been OK?
NOTE3: The death figures are almost the reverse, with the vaccine showing it does seem to help prevent death. Which is good (for vaccinated folks)...
Seems OFCOM got over a thousand complaints about Dr Hillary's announcement (on Good Morning Britain, more than once) saying 90% of individuals in hospital were unnvaccinated. Good! It's predominantly the vaccinated, and that sort of (factual) information needs to be out in the open so we can handle matters rationally.
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