road to fiddlers green

[darth los]

It might be gross but sacrifices must be made. Think about it. You's be a hero with legendary status around here.

[Wildey]

Even if the game is not technically brilliant, I never saw a game which as well reproduces the Romero movies environment. I spent a good moment playing it, my preferred moment is when you must help the truck-driver to reach his truck by shooting the zombies from the top of a roof.

[DVW5150]

I really believe that any GAR fan would get their money's worth out of LOTD:RTFG. As one of the main modders for LOTD my opinion is certainly biased, but I'll be the first to admit that the game as shipped earned its bad reputation. If it weren't for the modding potential this game would've lasted on my PC for about a week. However, the modding community has brought so much to the table for this game, including: - Lots of new multiplayer invasion maps, includeing Night, Dawn, and Day maps - Infection mod and headshot-only zombies to better simulate the Romero universe - Tons of AI improvements - Last Man Standing mod to put you in the zombie role against your former friends and survivors - Dedicated Servers with fast downloads to make those maps and mods highly available and easy to get/play We're in the process of implementing: - Multiplayer coop mission-style maps - Vehicles, including a fully working, drivable Dead Reckoning - New single-player adventures We also have mods to simulate non-traditional zombie and zombie-like opponents, like running zombies from Dawn '04, the Infected from 28 Days Later, or the zombie-ish Vampires from I Am Legend. But best of all, the LOTD modding community is a small community made up of GAR fans. We take zombies - especially GAR zombies - very seriously. We listen to what zombie fans want in their zombie mods and try to deliver. So find a copy if you can. If you cannot please report that to support@groovegames.com. They need to know if there is interest in the game that is not being met. And I still disliked Land - it needed modding. I can only say "Left for Dead" thanx to Captn for giving me the news about it.

[darth los]

I can only say "Left for Dead" thanx to Captn for giving me the news about it. That's going to be an awsome game and could very well be one of the best zombie games ever made.

[SRP76]

Thread revival. I never played this game (because I never wanted any XBox, and don't do PC gaming), but I finally looked up some video. I watched it played through on youtube from beginning to end. My question is: what's so "horrible" about the game? Everything I read about it is people just bitching about what a waste of time it is. But, nothing specific. I didn't see anything bad about the game. You've got zombies, weapons, and you kill the zombies. Where's the bad? The only one gripe I could possibly have is that a headshot almost never drops a zombie. Point-blank to the forehead with the pistol, and it just keeps shambling. I'm not big on that. And maybe the zombies attacking by puking at you. Other than that, I can't see the "horrible".

[MinionZombie]

The trouble with the game, is that it's a budget title, so it lacks the finesse of larger titles, and indeed the shooting of zombies is so inaccurate, or downright silly - you can shoot one in the foot five times or so and it'll die, which is rather silly. I'm sure watching it on YouTube and playing it are two entirely different things, though. I think the mods for it were better than the game though.

[capncnut]

Well you only have to play it for five minutes to see that it's utter cack. Has a no brainer of a story (which follows NOTLD's timeline as opposed to LOTD's), the level design is average, the AI is totally pants, the zombies can break through brick walls, etc...

[krakenslayer]

No. The game is a terrible rush job - the graphics and sound are half-assed, the AI is ridiculously dumb, the zombies are incredibly inconsistent (they lumber slowly on their feet, but crawl at 50mph when their legs are shot out), the dialogue is horrendous, level design is linear and insipid (key, door, key) and the gameplay and physics are broken. Someone needs to make this ultimate Romero zombie game: An open plan world (similar to Oblivion or Fallout 3) filled with thousands upon thousands of unique (procedurally-generated?) zombies. Dawn-style raiders should be another danger, and survivor settlements with NPCs who can give side-missions and provide aid should be scattered around the map. There should be dozens of different weapons and items. Weaker firearms and melee weapons should take multiple hits to the zombie's head to kill them (i.e. to completely destroy the brain), whereas shotguns, high calibre rifles, etc. will bring them down with one headshot. Some zombies - soldiers, etc. - are people who died wearing body armour and are much harder to kill, even by headshots. Most of the zombies should lurch around unpredictably (head lolling, etc.) to make headshots more difficult. It should be possible to bring them down, but not kill them, by damaging the torso so that their spine is severed and their legs paralysed, but such zombies can still crawl or grab the player's leg as he walks past. Some areas should be strewn with dead bodies, making it hazardous to cross as some of them may be crippled undead. Other areas should be so full of zombies as to be impassable by normal run-and-gun gameplay, requiring stealth, the finding of overhead/underground/vehicle or otherwise safer means of travel to cross them. Shallow bites and scratches (as well as bullet wounds, etc.) should cause injury and lower the players normal health bar, whereas deeper (critical) zombie bites cause bacterial infection that must be healed by massive antibiotic injection or cauterization within a certain time limit or the player becomes sick, dies and becomes a zombie. Any NPC that is killed becomes a zombie, although the length of in-game time between death and revival varies between five minutes and a day. A lot of effort should be put into zombie AI. Usually developers add zombies to a game because they think they are stupid and they can go easy on the AI, this is a big mistake IMO, and robs them of character and their disturbing elements. The zombies should have just as detailed artificial intelligence as the human characters - a zombie who was once a postman might be found still trying (clumsily) to deliver mail, a shop assistant might be found trying to stock shelves with rotten, maggot-ridden food... until they see a human and come lurching towards them. Some zombies should wander alone, lurking in dark places or crawling through undergrowth, some should wander in packs through the ruins of cities. They should be attracted to places they might have remembered from life. They should respond to human noises such as gunfire and be attracted from a distance so that a loud confrontation with a single zombie can quickly draw thousands out of the woodwork, and this can be used strategically in combat with human enemies or to clear a certain area of the undead. There should be several different "types" of zombie AI. Not like different Doom-style monsters, but certain individuals should behave in a slightly different way to the others. The vast majority are straightforward "walkers", some are "lurchers" who don't run but shamble a lot faster than the regular zombies (a la Cemetery Zombie, Zombie Kids in Dawn), some are "moaners" who are very vocal and attract other zombies when they spot you, some are "thinkers" who have simple problem solving ability (a la Bub, Big Daddy). In addition to this, about half of normal ghouls are able to use simple bludgeoning weapons (table legs, baseball bats, etc.) to attack humans and break down defenses, and a very small percentage (mostly "thinkers" or military/police "walkers") are able to use firearms in a rudimentary way. Fire should be another strategically important element. In close quarters it can be used to repel a horde of zombies, but from a distance it draws attention to the player. Fire and fireworks can be used - a la Land of the Dead - to mesmerise zombies and provide temporary defence. In keeping with the Dead series, there should be some sort of siege mechanic whereby a player - or an NPC settlement - stranded in an area with a high concentration of zombies can fortify a building against the hordes. Zombies continually attack and break down boarded-up windows and doors and the player (and NPCs) have to continually re-fortify and defend themselves until they can thin out the hordes or help arrives. There should also be very detailed gore effects compared with most games; zombies should be able to tear out intestines and internal organs from their dead victims, hordes are able to dismember their prey. Okay, I got carried away with that. But what do you guys think?

[capncnut]

I would love to see a game like this made but Elder Scrolls games take a good five years to make. I totally see what you mean though because I've been playing Oblivion quite a lot lately and was thinking the same thing. Would be a HUGE undertaking though. I always figured that the GTA engine would be more the way to go.

[bigmonkey2582]

The gta engine is a bit too....goofy for my liking. Don't know how well it could work for a GAR game.

[MinionZombie]

The gta engine is a bit too....goofy for my liking. Don't know how well it could work for a GAR game. You'd probably need something a bit more claustrophobic ... maybe ... but a zombie GTA IV would be awesome, slap a God Mode option in there and you could have some crazy-ass fun.

[SymphonicX]

I'd buy an open world zombie game - that's what I thought Left for Dead was, but was disappointed. I'd love to see an everlasting online multiplayer like WOW but with the undead, you get a city/country to explore and have to make alliances to combat things like hunger, infection, hoardes of the undead, raiders, etc etc...you can build your own fortresses, fortifiy them, and protect them from the undead, but key is interaction with other players - not just in a run and gun sense, but tactically...

[Andy]

There's a game based on land of the dead?

[axlish]

The mods for this game are legendary. Better AI and insanely killer maps for Monroeville Mall and Day of the Dead caverns.

[SRP76]

I'd buy an open world zombie game - that's what I thought Left for Dead was, but was disappointed. I'd love to see an everlasting online multiplayer like WOW but with the undead, you get a city/country to explore and have to make alliances to combat things like hunger, infection, hoardes of the undead, raiders, etc etc...you can build your own fortresses, fortifiy them, and protect them from the undead, but key is interaction with other players - not just in a run and gun sense, but tactically... There would have to be a limit to the number of people that can play each scenario. Otherwise, you'll end up with more living people (players) than zombies, and that would suck, suck, suck. Maybe 5 or 10 total people in each city.