Knocked up some memes for this episode, enjoy:
http://deadshed.blogspot.co.uk/2012/...king-dead.html
This one's wide, so either scroll sideways, or perhaps it'd be easier to view it separately here:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1usSziIrk7...1_DeadShed.jpg
Now onto some chit-chat:
 Originally Posted by bassman
You seem to have read a lot more of the notebook than I did(never noticed the percentages and such), but I was under the impression that the list of names were people they had lost. When Penny died, that's when he fully snapped.
I freeze-framed. Not in HD, so I couldn't see everything, but I made out what I could. Yeah ... I'm a bit obsessive. 
Good call on the list though, I hadn't quite twigged on that - that definitely makes a lot of sense. Good spot. 
Originally Posted by Wyldwraith
Now the Carol being alive speculation is something that even next week's previews seemed to support that theory, with Daryl discovering Carol's knife somewhere seemingly indicative of her not having died in the prison. Which is exactly the question they seem to want us to be asking ourselves. Personally I think it was a mistake to turn Carol's survival/death into a mystery instead of tying it definitively then and there to T-Dog's sacrifice, but I'm willing to sit back and wait and see how they handle it. Who knows, it may be just the springboard needed to push Daryl into a more prominent/proactive position. Rick certainly isn't going to be calm, composed and seeing to his responsibilities anytime soon. Understandable, but I wish they'd kept going in the crushing regret direction of his reaction instead of going into feral fury almost instantly thereafter. Not saying it didn't make for some cool scenes, just that a bit more buildup to the explosion/meltdown/rageout woulda been appreciated.
It does feel weird that nobody really searched for her body - a bit of a plot hole there (the episode had a few of them) - I can definitely see Daryl being pushed more front-and-centre at the moment though. As they've said, Daryl is happy being #2 and not in charge, but here he has to take the lead, we saw it in him taking on the search for baby supplies, and then he full-on took hold of l'il asskicker and fed her, so maybe he's going to pushed centre stage and see how he deals with it.
I'm assuming that Carol's grave is just for show - they took some dirt and created a mound on top of the grass ... however, Glenn did order Axel and Oscar to dig "two more" after he'd already done one ... so again, another plot hole. However, yes, I'd say Carol's grave is for show only.
I'm wondering if Carol's getting a bit of a trial-by-fire herself, kind of like Andrea got when she was accidentally left behind ... might we see Carol becoming more of a warrior woman? Might she become Daryl's right hand woman? We never saw Andrew's body and he turned up again - we've not seen Carol's body, so she's going to turn up. It could be that she's trapped somewhere in the prison, or has barricaded herself in somewhere (a cell, possibly).
Originally Posted by AcesandEights
Pleasantly surprised I made it into the thread this week before anyone referred to a woman on the show as a whore...that hardly ever happens anymore.
Decent episode for a reset, but I agree it was somewhat muddled. Nice to have an episode where they don't lean so heavily on action and the shock of loss to carry the length of the running time, but they need to look at these episodes as not just component parts of a seasonal arc.
1) Aye - there's some rather questionable comments on occasion relating to certain female characters here.
2) Watched the 'after show' bonus segment for The Talking Dead on YouTube last night and Nicotero spoke of several deleted scenes. One where we see a walker shuffling through a field, and then falling out of view (into a trap), another where Maggie breaks down and tells Daryl what happened, and then realising that Daryl's "lost" Carol too, and they have a moment, and there was at least one more which showed Michonne further exploring The Governor's flat (looking at the books he's reading etc) - so that would explain some of the apparent lack in connective tissue here and there, however none of those explain any of the little plot holes where greater attention needed to be paid to the details.
Indeed, this does raise a concern that they're cramming too much into each episode. Yes, we don't want low-content episodes like the front-seven of season 2, but we also need enough time to process what's going on.
Originally Posted by Neil
Four continuities/issues bugged me?
1) When Michonne chopped up the 'entertainment', at least one she sliced down from the shoulder to the waste, but no signs of it still moving afterwards. Also, she didn't seem the slightest bit interested in putting them out of the their misery as most would simply be heads sitting their still animated on the ground. Surely she would have just gone around head putting her sword in it?
2) When Rick shot the zombie in the mouth, the gun was at best level if not pointing down... How would then destroy the brain? Guess the blast might have? Why not just point the gun up!?
3) As already mentioned? Everyone forget about Carol?
4) Little confused by Lori's body? So Carl hadn't shot her? So the body had animated and wondered off? And the zombie nearby? Confused!?!
EDIT: See (4) has been discussed. The idea she was consumed is just daft! There would be boned etc at least? Or are we assuming all this was dragged off? I think just a bloody messy skull, a upper torso (rib cage + mess) would have been better in the scene!
1) Michonne didn't bother killing the heads of the three walkers she took on in the first episode in that shop, so it would stand to reason that she's only taking out the immediate threat of the other walkers - deactivating them relatively speaking - just in terms of messing up Woodbury's little experiement/entertainment/whatever-it-appears-to-be-to-her-at-the-time. However, aye, it's one of those little plot holes that seemed to crop up a few times in this episode.
2) I thought about that too, the angle was off. No doubt just a mistake on-set and they didn't have time to re-shoot it (IIRC the blood gush was practical), and with only 8 days to shoot each episode, they've gotta move on and let a little detail like that go ... but yeah, a bit off. Perhaps there was some ricochet or whatever, but yeah...
3) It is slightly strange, isn't it? I think everyone's just assuming, and being that T-Dog was barely recognisable, they're assuming the same for Carol ... but again, it feels a bit odd - perhaps there was an explanation that was lost in a deleted scene? There seems to have been numerous moments that were cut-for-time. 
4) As explained somewhere earlier in the thread, Nicotero explained that the dead body had been dragged elsewhere by that walker and consumed - now, I'm assuming that, similar to T-Dog, there's part of a carcass somewhere (which was possibly removed by the others for burial), but we don't see it, so it is a rather confusing telling of that issue. It doesn't read in an entirely sensible manner. The walker might be utterly bloated, but it can't consume an entire human being - you certainly can't eat all the bones FFS! Plus - why would a walker bother to drag a body away? They eat where they find it, there's no 10-second-rule for zombies. 
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