ONE SOLID REASON DAWN of the DEAD 2004 rocks

[bassman]

at least Land had a semi decent script and had some great lines in it... "isn't that what we're doing, pretending to be alive?" Several people think that isn't a great line. They seem to pick at certain lines in Land even though there are numerous very similar lines that hint we're the same in the earlier films. "We're them and they're us", "They are us", "I once saw one of those things sitting behind the wheel of a car in D.C. trying to drive down Independence Avenue.", "Some kind of instinct. Memory, of what they used to do. This was an important place in their lives.", "They're us, that's all, when there's no more room in hell.", ETC.... Romero's been using lines that all relate us to the dead since day one. People just like to pick at Land...

[SymphonicX]

I thought the line was a biting representation of the society they were living in...it HAD to be obvious, what was Riley supposed to say? giving us some deep metaphor would've made us all cringe. The truth was, they were feigning some sort of life away from the living dead and it was nothing to do with actual living. It made sense, it's a good line. a lot of people bitch about that stuff because they can't decide whether they want a poem or a balls to the wall commentary on how things are in the movie. They generally did less daft things at least The only daft thing in the movie was the death of the little guy on the skateboard...although that scene was creepy, he was never going to survive that situation...so really he should never have been there.

[Neil]

The only daft thing in the movie was the death of the little guy on the skateboard...although that scene was creepy, he was never going to survive that situation...so really he should never have been there. Yes, that was a clear example of a film character losing any desire to stay alive and/or do anything intelligent...

[Legion2213]

Yes, that was a clear example of a film character losing any desire to stay alive and/or do anything intelligent... Seriously, you just knew he was dead the second they dropped him off.

[bassman]

Seriously, you just knew he was dead the second they dropped him off. Yeah. At least they gave him a box of joints.

[SymphonicX]

Yes, that was a clear example of a film character losing any desire to stay alive and/or do anything intelligent... There was nothing to give us the impression that this guy wanted to be eaten...I mean, those who want to die generally kill themselves in a way that doesn't involve getting ripped in half...!

[darth los]

Several people think that isn't a great line. They seem to pick at certain lines in Land even though there are numerous very similar lines that hint we're the same in the earlier films. "We're them and they're us", "They are us", "I once saw one of those things sitting behind the wheel of a car in D.C. trying to drive down Independence Avenue.", "Some kind of instinct. Memory, of what they used to do. This was an important place in their lives.", "They're us, that's all, when there's no more room in hell.", ETC.... Romero's been using lines that all relate us to the dead since day one. People just like to pick at Land... I don't like land but imo that's an excellent line. What's more profound than an introspection about the true meaning of life? What does it mean to be alive? Is it just going through the motions eating, sleeping , working, having sex or getting high? Or is that merely existing? That's most likely a question that every man must answer for themselves. There was a similar sentiment offered by Frannie in Dawn. She made a couple of comments that seemed to point to a malaise that had set in the group's mentality. It was also evident to anyone who saw the film. They had virtually every material comfort/excess that a human being could want but there was still something missing. Were they really living? My answer is no. Being alive, being human consists of much more and imo that's what riley was getting at. He was willing to leave the "comforts" and protection of The fortified city in order to look for something more. Something to give hope and purpose to life that was for the most part no longer worth living. Something that merely going through the motions everyday wasn't giving him. There was nothing to give us the impression that this guy wanted to be eaten...I mean, those who want to die generally kill themselves in a way that doesn't involve getting ripped in half...! Tell that to Miguel from Day !!

[SymphonicX]

Tell that to Miguel from Day !! Hahah I know, but he was already ****ed - the little dude (was he called mouse?) had nothing to die for...!

[EvilNed]

I have to back up the 28 Days/Weeks Later supporters. Those films are infinetly superior to Dawn 04, even if Dawn 04 ain't awful. But the 28 days are simply great.

[Mike70]

the line in land that has always stuck with me is at the very end when mully says something like, "why don't you stay. we could turn this place into what it always could've been." riley's response, "yeah, but what will we turn into?" i like that bit of insight in his character.

[darth los]

Hahah I know, but he was already ****ed - the little dude (was he called mouse?) had nothing to die for...! Nope. He was called yellow, Spic , in bad shape and collapsing from stress. However I don't believe that mouse was one of them. Now that i think about it we should create a drinking game. Every time a racial or gender based slur is uttered in that film we take a shot. Dude we'd be soooo wasted !!

[SymphonicX]

Nope. He was called yellow, Spic , in bad shape and collapsing from stress. However I don't believe that mouse was one of them. Now that i think about it we should create a drinking game. Every time a racial or gender based slur is uttered in that film we take a shot. Dude we'd be soooo wasted !! i was talking about the dude in Land, not Miguel!

[darth los]

i was talking about the dude in Land, not Miguel! In that case i think it was mouse. But that's still a good game though. lol

[Trin]

at least Land had a semi decent script and had some great lines in it... "isn't that what we're doing, pretending to be alive?" I don't think this line was great. The line iteslf is fine, but it was said by Riley, who had every capability to change the situation and made no effort to do so. He shouldn't be spouting off pithy rhetoric about life's desolation when he is a direct supporter of the system keeping the status quo intact. And running away to Canada does NOT count as doing something about it. I think it could've been a great line. Let the line come from Mulligan and it would've had more impact. Or Slack. Or anyone who wasn't working for Kaufman. Let that line be said to Riley instead of by him. Then Riley could've had a 'wake up and smell the coffee' moment and been incented to change things. Coming from Riley it sounded horribly insincere. He should've said, "Isn't that what we're doing, pretending to help people?"

[Neil]

I have to back up the 28 Days/Weeks Later supporters. Those films are infinetly superior to Dawn 04, even if Dawn 04 ain't awful. But the 28 days are simply great. The first 10 mins of 28 Months Later was awesome! Shame the last 3rd got soooo daft!