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    It's JJ Abrams, so I'm going to give it a very cautious thumbs up.
    So far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    Now it looks like JJ Abrams is just going on along with this stories set in the past nonsense. Kirk didn't even take Command of the Enterprise until he was 35 I believe (which is older than me) but this new kid playing Kirk is clearly younger than I am. Chekov cannot be in the movie, as he may not have even been in the academy at this point, much less a Starfleet Officer. Starfleet had no run ins with the Romulans in this era. The Enterprise was not a new ship when Kirk took command, it had already been under Captain Pikes command for a decade.

    I just know some or all of these things will be contradicted. I know it's probably just me but this all annoys me.
    But this is a 'reboot' - It's a fresh start with no hard and fast basis on anything previously done...

    Think 'Battlestar Galactica' where they kicked a lot of it around, completely in the face of the original.
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    Star Trek Enterprise AKA: how to destroy a franchise.
    Trek con 2001
    Braga: "Lets hit a century fans want to see!"
    fans: "Alright!"
    Braga: "Lets have a temporal cold war explain the resurgance of races and technology from the TNG era."
    fans: "Booo! you suck Braga! do something new!"
    Braga: "They love me!"
    fans: "There something wrong with the acoustics in here?"

    Trek con 2003
    Braga: "I realised I made a few mistakes with the temporal cold war arc but hope to have this Xindi arc will make amends."
    Fans: "Does this mean your ditching the TWC arc? if so where was it headed and who was future guy?"
    Braga: "eh? how the hell should I know? I didnt plan it out, anyway this xindi arc will feature a multiple species who worship and serve a powerful xenophobic race and the Enterprise stands between them and the destruction of Earth."
    Fans: "This sounds an awful lot like Deep Space Nine."
    Braga: "Deep Space what? I'm sorry I dont even watch Trek, but anyway I got the idea from some scripts of a previous series I found in the vaults."

    Sticking it to the fans.
    presenter: "So why do you think Star Trek Nemesis failed?"
    actor/producer: "I blame the fans, totally their fault, we made the best Trek film with no plot holes and good entertainment and they ditched us. how dare they!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman311 View Post
    but as Mz has siad, there have been rumblings that this movie is really good.

    I like the picture of Bana as the bad guy. Looks like a badass. Can't wait to see the way he plays it.
    i have been a star trek fan since i was a little kid and i really dig the pics. unfortunately, a huge number of star trek fans are purist dickheads who ought to be shot into space themselves. i've said this before and i'll say it again, i love star trek but CANNOT stand most star trek fans.

    i really grow weary of all the crying about timelines and technical manuals and all that other bullshiv. this flick has been billed as a reboot of the franchise. i doubt that most of the people who fancy themselves "true" fans of trek (another thing i have a huge problem with - just what the hell is a true fan) can let that sink into their heads. all former bets are off. this is a brand new take on the classic trek.

    on another note: i've thought for quite sometime that the place to take the trek franchise is to go far into the future, say 1,500 or 2,000 years. show what has become of the federation and the alpha and beta quadrants. that'd be damn interesting and would put it outside of the fu*kstick geeks and their manuals.

    rant at an end.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    Now it looks like JJ Abrams is just going on along with this stories set in the past nonsense. Kirk didn't even take Command of the Enterprise until he was 35 I believe (which is older than me) but this new kid playing Kirk is clearly younger than I am. Chekov cannot be in the movie, as he may not have even been in the academy at this point, much less a Starfleet Officer. Starfleet had no run ins with the Romulans in this era. The Enterprise was not a new ship when Kirk took command, it had already been under Captain Pikes command for a decade.

    I just know some or all of these things will be contradicted. I know it's probably just me but this all annoys me.
    i am about to reveal the true depths of my geekry here:

    kirk was 31 when he became captain in 2264.

    the enterprise was launched in 2245 and was first commanded by robert april. pike was the second captain in the 2250's and 60s.

    there were contacts with the romulans prior to this. the romulan war from 2156 to 2160, fought between the romulans on one side and earth, andoria, tellar and vulcan on the other. there just wasn't any face to face contact between the races.




    but as neil said, this a reboot. nothing that went before applies.
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    I never cared for reboots. Just create something brand new instead of raping the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    I never cared for reboots. Just create something brand new instead of raping the past.
    Yeah, because Batman Begins was horrible compared to Batman & Robin. As was Casino Royale compared to Die Another Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman311 View Post
    Yeah, because Batman Begins was horrible compared to Batman & Robin. As was Casino Royale compared to Die Another Day.
    Batman Begins was stupid as f*ck when compared to Year One, the actual canon start of Batman. If you've read Batman comics since the mid-1980s, the new movie made about as much sense as a football bat. And that is why many people don't like reboots. It's not broken, so let's fix it anyway. No, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRP76 View Post
    Batman Begins was stupid as f*ck when compared to Year One, the actual canon start of Batman. If you've read Batman comics since the mid-1980s, the new movie made about as much sense as a football bat. And that is why many people don't like reboots. It's not broken, so let's fix it anyway. No, thanks.
    Year One is just one story(and too 'Frank Miller' at that - Selina Kyle as a prostitute??). It doesn't make it the definitive origin. Besides....I wasn't comparing Begins to one or all of the comics it drew inspiration from anyway. I was comparing it to the film that came before it. If you enjoyed B&R more than BB, you should have your head examined.
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    I agree with Sandrock, even though I am looking forward to this picture.

    I just don't think going back in time is the right direction. As Sandrock mentioned, things were just getting interesting in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. I guess I was just hoping for another TNG film that would be just as good as the awesome "First Contact". I like all TNG films, but Nemesis was in reality just one long action sequence (and yes, it disregarded canon immensly) and Insurrection was a bit too "sweet" at times. But both were good adventures. And I want one final adventure, with the scriptwriters from First Contact. Man, that film was bad ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I agree with Sandrock, even though I am looking forward to this picture.

    I just don't think going back in time is the right direction. As Sandrock mentioned, things were just getting interesting in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. I guess I was just hoping for another TNG film that would be just as good as the awesome "First Contact". I like all TNG films, but Nemesis was in reality just one long action sequence (and yes, it disregarded canon immensly) and Insurrection was a bit too "sweet" at times. But both were good adventures. And I want one final adventure, with the scriptwriters from First Contact. Man, that film was bad ass.

    i've said it before and i'll say it again: i'd love to see a star trek story that takes place in the far, far future - say 1,500 or 2,000 years after the events in voyager. it would place it outside of known timelines, so the canon geeks could relax and it would be damned interesting to see what form the federation is in way down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I agree with Sandrock, even though I am looking forward to this picture.

    I just don't think going back in time is the right direction. As Sandrock mentioned, things were just getting interesting in the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. I guess I was just hoping for another TNG film that would be just as good as the awesome "First Contact". I like all TNG films, but Nemesis was in reality just one long action sequence (and yes, it disregarded canon immensly) and Insurrection was a bit too "sweet" at times. But both were good adventures. And I want one final adventure, with the scriptwriters from First Contact. Man, that film was bad ass.
    I've finally found someone on the internet who agrees with me!
    By the way, Batman Begins was alright. Not great, just alright. Better than Batman and Robin? Certainly.
    The Dark Knight? Way too long and far too depressing. I preferred Iron Man MUCH more. I would be curious to see how TDK would have done if Heath Ledger was still alive...

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