Apocalypse like riots in London, Birmingham and Leeds

[JDFP]

maybe this will be the start of some real authority and the fear of god finally put into these scumbags but i wouldnt bet on it. It sounds like you need someone like this who won't put up with bullshit there back in charge again... Somehow I doubt she'd put up with such nonsense if she was still in charge! j.p.

[Publius]

Somehow I doubt she'd put up with such nonsense if she was still in charge! Damn straight.

[Exatreides]

How much do you think class conflict has to play into this? You can't dismiss it completely, but it's obvious no Arab Spring. Should it be compared more to the La Riots after Rodney King?

[Andy]

It sounds like you need someone like this who won't put up with bullshit there back in charge again... Somehow I doubt she'd put up with such nonsense if she was still in charge! j.p. Good old maggie, she'd have beat these rabid dogs down in a matter of hours How much do you think class conflict has to play into this? You can't dismiss it completely, but it's obvious no Arab Spring. Should it be compared more to the La Riots after Rodney King? Absolutly nothing at all. If you dont live in england then you dont know how deep and bad the benefits culture goes after a decade of uninterupted labour rule, parents have no work ethic and so are not teaching any to their children all that these riots are is a generation of chavs who think they are owed a living from the state and honestly, genuinely do not beleive they should work for their money. They are targetting 'the man' and 'the rich' but honestly, their destroying hard working people's businesses. They have absolutly no concept of working for what they have. Think about this next time you vote red and i hold tony blair and his goblin henchman totally responsible for this.

[Tricky]

I cant believe that kids who have blackberry phones, £100 trainers and Xboxes are trying to use poverty as an excuse. Little bastards want to be shipped to Somalia to see what real poverty is...

[Neil]

If you dont live in england then you dont know how deep and bad the benefits culture goes after a decade of uninterupted labour rule, parents have no work ethic and so are not teaching any to their children all that these riots are is a generation of chavs who think they are owed a living from the state and honestly, genuinely do not beleive they should work for their money. They are targetting 'the man' and 'the rich' but honestly, their destroying hard working people's businesses. They have absolutly no concept of working for what they have. Def +1

[Arcades057]

Good old maggie, she'd have beat these rabid dogs down in a matter of hours Absolutly nothing at all. If you dont live in england then you dont know how deep and bad the benefits culture goes after a decade of uninterupted labour rule, parents have no work ethic and so are not teaching any to their children all that these riots are is a generation of chavs who think they are owed a living from the state and honestly, genuinely do not beleive they should work for their money. They are targetting 'the man' and 'the rich' but honestly, their destroying hard working people's businesses. They have absolutly no concept of working for what they have. Think about this next time you vote red and i hold tony blair and his goblin henchman totally responsible for this. We in America, those of us with our eyes and ears open, know all about the benefit culture. Why is gun violence so prevalent in our society? Why is our violent crime so high when compared to other 1st world nations? Why are we the only 1st world nation with the death penalty? The answers to all of those questions go back to what we term the entitlement culture. I live outside Detroit now. I get to deal with these entitled "people" every day. You'd think that someone on public assistance would drive an older, not-quite-as-nice-car as me, or be a bit less picky about what they eat. Not so. I guess the only thing we have going for us is the fact that these "people" are concentrated in urban-sprawl areas, so when something like the LA Riots start, they just trash their own neighborhoods. These are not very industrious people over here. They're overweight, lazy f*cks who, for the most part, will send "dey chillens" out to do a little wealth redistribution in the form of TVs, video game systems, and, of course, shoes and beer. These same "people" are smart enough to know not to move their little redistributive aims out of their own shitholes and into common society. Some of us are waiting with bated breath and loaded firearms for an opportunity to do a little "population redistribution" of our own. The preceding statement is that of an individual who has worked his whole life to provide taxable income which goes to feed and clothe leeches without an ounce of thanks in their heads. It is also the statement of an individual who deals with these leeches every day, and he possesses no white guilt.

[Neil]

^^ Similar to many individuals here, where they simply have got into the habit of expecting society to pay for what they need, and to look after them...

[AcesandEights]

There's so many sublethal options for riot control, it boggles my mind why crime like this is allowed to progress to the point we have seen. I hope some feet are held to the fire following up on this in your country and I hope to god other nations look on and take note of what not to put up with. Perhaps some awareness and policy shifts can come about from this, but only if the public stands up and makes enough noise. Hope all of you are safe in your respective shires humungusvfrodo.jpg

[Neil]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14483149 Sir Max Hastings, in an article for the Daily Mail, focused on "a perverted social ethos, which elevates personal freedom to an absolute, and denies the underclass the discipline - tough love - which alone might enable some of its members to escape from the swamp of dependency in which they live". There is a culture of entitlement in the UK, says David Wilson, professor of criminology at Birmingham City University and a former prison governor. "But it's not just about the underclass - it's about politicians, it's about bankers, it's about footballers. "It's not just about a particular class, it permeates all levels of society. When we see politicians claiming for flat-screen TVs and getting jailed for fiddling their expenses, it's clear that young people of all classes aren't being given appropriate leadership."

[shootemindehead]

It sounds like you need someone like this who won't put up with bullshit there back in charge again... Somehow I doubt she'd put up with such nonsense if she was still in charge! j.p. That's the last c**t anybody needs running anything.

[Neil]

This demonstrates perfectly the don't-give-a-damn attitude and the inability to understand that what they're doing is so very profoundly wrong! - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

[Tricky]

That's the last c**t anybody needs running anything. I'd rather have her than any of the other pocket lining hand wringing incompetant champagne socialist arseholes we've had running the country for the past 20 years...

[MinionZombie]

This demonstrates perfectly the don't-give-a-damn attitude and the inability to understand that what they're doing is so very profoundly wrong! - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424 I hope those girls will be getting a knock on their door from the police sometime soon - being that they were drinking looted wine (I wonder if they were underage to boot). Courts are operating 24 hours a day in some places, and the cops are using info on suspects (CCTV and intel from the public) to track them down and arrest the bastards. It wasn't just bloody kids either, one example was a primary school teacher! I wonder what he stole, because I wonder if it was really worth getting a criminal record and losing your job - and indeed, being that he's a teacher, ruining his prospects of ever teaching again. A petition has been transferred to parliament (after getting 100,000 signatures) saying that benefits should be stripped from people who have rioted - I'd have to agree - what's more, their existing possessions should be confiscated as a fine in addition to receiving a criminal record and whatever convictions they get.

[Tricky]

A petition has been transferred to parliament (after getting 100,000 signatures) saying that benefits should be stripped from people who have rioted - I'd have to agree - what's more, their existing possessions should be confiscated as a fine in addition to receiving a criminal record and whatever convictions they get. The problem is with that, what will they do with them once they've cut off the benefits or evicted them etc? Unless there is something in place they will just go thieving, pushing drugs & mugging again to make up for the lost revenue. We keep getting told the prisons are full so unless they either build more or start deporting people we cant win Personally I'd bring back public flogging and build some god awful concrete prisons on the remote Scottish islands to house these kind of scumbags, but not a single person in any position of power be it the current government or the opposition has the spine to do it, so despite all the tough words coming from politicians now (slamming the door after the horse has bolted in my opinion) nothing will change and the "gangsta/chav" will still continue to terrorise the cities & towns for a good long time yet until the hand wringing generation of politicians & social workers are replaced by people with real balls