So which Night film is canon to George's series, original or remake?

[bassman]

Oy.... Yes, yes, we’re all aware that you see your opinions as fact. As I’ve said numerous times now, just gotta agree to disagree and move on. It’s all been said and done at this point.

[JDP]

Oy.... Yes, yes, we’re all aware that you see your opinions as fact. As I’ve said numerous times now, just gotta agree to disagree and move on. It’s all been said and done at this point. When you actually come up with plausible explanations for the points brought up against your proposal, be sure to let us know about it.

[bassman]

[JDP]

[MinionZombie]

[Philly_SWAT]

As I said, I don’t really want to get into it again, as there’s nowhere to go. But sense you asked so nicely, the shortest way to put it now is this: I don’t think it was ever intended as some kind of big line to signify anything. If it were of any importance, it would be done in a prominent scene rather than a line said off screen and completely muddled with other dialogue/noises. By all means, interpret the line as gospel if you wish, but that doesn’t mean that everyone else has to agree with that opinion. With Romero now gone, there won’t ever be a definite answer. A few thoughts... Even if Romero was still here, there would not be a definite answer. We had this discussion for years while he was still alive. I did not suggest that everyone else has to agree with my opinion. Maybe my question was unclear the way I worded it. I wasn't asking your opinion about the 'three weeks' line. I fully acknowledged my understanding that you do not think it was referring to the start of the outbreak. I was asking your thoughts as an intelligent and rational human being, taking whatever you feel is appropriate in making such a determination, how far into the outbreak you think it is at the start of Dawn. I did not think that this question was 'getting into' anything again, unless I didnt see it or didnt remember, I dont think you have ever offered your opinion of this specific question, which as I said,I was genuinely interesting in.

[bassman]

You’re the one with that power, my friend! A few thoughts... Even if Romero was still here, there would not be a definite answer. We had this discussion for years while he was still alive. I did not suggest that everyone else has to agree with my opinion. Maybe my question was unclear the way I worded it. I wasn't asking your opinion about the 'three weeks' line. I fully acknowledged my understanding that you do not think it was referring to the start of the outbreak. I was asking your thoughts as an intelligent and rational human being, taking whatever you feel is appropriate in making such a determination, how far into the outbreak you think it is at the start of Dawn. I did not think that this question was 'getting into' anything again, unless I didnt see it or didnt remember, I dont think you have ever offered your opinion of this specific question, which as I said,I was genuinely interesting in. I don’t really have a specific stance as to the timeline of the outbreak, as I don’t think it matters to the film as a whole. My whole thing is not really opposing any proposed numerical time frame to the film, but more about the significance, or lack there of, when it comes to that off-screen and muddled audio. And really, because of the placement and quality of the line, I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if it’s generally missed entirely by most first time viewers. If it were truly important, it would have been more “front and center”, so to speak, rather than a low quality, passing line. So that’s my whole opinion, I don’t have a specific time for Dawn other than it’s furher along than Night and that the line of dialogue in question is not so definitive as to call other people “wrong” if they don’t take it as gospel(not referring to you). And my apologies if my “tone” came off as being hostile or anything other than friendly. “Getting into it” was more of a reference to repeating the same things back-and-forth that have already been discussed. I’ve no intention of being anything but friendly, as I welcome other opinions and love discussions at HPoTD, which is why we’re all here.

[Philly_SWAT]

And my apologies if my “tone” came off as being hostile or anything other than friendly. “Getting into it” was more of a reference to repeating the same things back-and-forth that have already been discussed. I’ve no intention of being anything but friendly, as I welcome other opinions and love discussions at HPoTD, which is why we’re all here. No apologies necessary my friend. You are one of the more congenial people here, much more so than me in my estimation. My desire to know your answer was to see if you felt Dawn was 'a few weeks' into the outbreak, which would show that we were in more or less agreement generally, if not specifically, about how far into the outbreak it was, or if you felt it is a few months or years into the outbreak, which would show we have drastically different interpretations of the movie, irrespective of the three weeks line.

[EvilNed]

The problem is that it is not a question of choice here, unlike the ambiguous and truly open to interpretation "3 years" bit of Land. The context and what the dialogue literally says cannot lead to any other plausible conclusion. Your proposal is implausible because it cannot give a satisfactory explanation for why people now strangely need to be reminded for three weeks about what the zombies are, what they do, and what has to be done in order to stop them from proliferating. Your proposal necessarily implies two things: 1- The zombies have been around for more than 3 weeks 2- For some mysterious reason a large segment of the population has forgotten what the zombies are, what they do, and what has to be done in order to stop them from multiplying, that's why the doctor has had to go to the TV station to remind all these people about all this, and he has spent 3 friggin' weeks there trying to re-educate this bunch of amnesia-afflicted stubborn idiots Oh I am laughing. This is too good to be true.

[MinionZombie]

You’re the one with that power, my friend! True, but on one hand I find the thread morbidly fascinating, and on the other it seems to keep this sort of stuff almost entirely contained to a single thread. But the option remains.

[JDP]

Oh I am laughing. This is too good to be true. Considering that you still don't get even simpler & plainer things, I am not surprised at all. You probably still hilariously think that the "3 weeks" reference in Dawn is equivalent to the "3 years" one in Land

[bassman]

Oh dear lawd. Just when it seemed like that poor horse was finally going to be allowed to rest in peace....

[JDP]

No apologies necessary my friend. You are one of the more congenial people here, much more so than me in my estimation. My desire to know your answer was to see if you felt Dawn was 'a few weeks' into the outbreak, which would show that we were in more or less agreement generally, if not specifically, about how far into the outbreak it was, or if you felt it is a few months or years into the outbreak, which would show we have drastically different interpretations of the movie, irrespective of the three weeks line. Don't get your hopes up too much. Don't expect very coherent, logical answers coming from those parts. Just look at the "answers" given so far. Even without the plain & clear "3 weeks" reference (fully within the appropriate context of the zombies and what they do), it is hardly difficult at all to deduce that the beginning of Dawn can hardly be much more than just a couple or thereabouts weeks into the zombie crisis. The old priest at the besieged building, for example, informs us that the dead have been accumulating at the basement for about a week (likely mostly the result of gang violence on the streets, as the priest's dialogue lines strongly imply) before the cops and the National Guard decided to take over the building by force and destroy the dead in there, since the inhabitants were stubbornly refusing to handle the situation appropriately, i.e. incapacitate the brains of the dead to prevent them from coming back as zombies (precisely the very thing that Dr. Foster was complaining about at the TV station, a situation that he plainly says has been going on for about 3 weeks... DUH!) Does it sound logical to you that such things could be happening in a world where the zombie crisis has been going on for longer than just a couple or so weeks? The government is evidently desperately trying to stop the multiplication of the zombies at this point, that's why it is taking action as fast as possible and still taking over residential areas by force if necessary in order to enforce the new zombie "laws" that many people are stubbornly refusing to obey. The main point of the whole introductory sequence at the TV station & the forceful take-over of that residential building is to show us in fact that the zombie crisis has only been going on for a relatively short amount of time at the start of the movie. That's why many people still don't quite understand or stubbornly refuse to believe what the hell is going on.

[EvilNed]

Considering that you still don't get even simpler & plainer things, I am not surprised at all. You probably still hilariously think that the "3 weeks" reference in Dawn is equivalent to the "3 years" one in Land What an ABSURD comparison? Why, that analogy is completely OFF THE CHARTS!

[bassman]

No apologies necessary my friend. You are one of the more congenial people here, much more so than me in my estimation. My desire to know your answer was to see if you felt Dawn was 'a few weeks' into the outbreak, which would show that we were in more or less agreement generally, if not specifically, about how far into the outbreak it was, or if you felt it is a few months or years into the outbreak, which would show we have drastically different interpretations of the movie, irrespective of the three weeks line. Cheers, dude! Glad to see some friendly discussion and acceptance of different opinions in this thread! Don't get your hopes up too much. Don't expect very coherent, logical answers coming from those parts. Just look at the "answers" given so far. Even without the plain & clear "3 weeks" reference (fully within the appropriate context of the zombies and what they do), it is hardly difficult at all to deduce that the beginning of Dawn can hardly be much more than just a couple or thereabouts weeks into the zombie crisis. The old priest at the besieged building, for example, informs us that the dead have been accumulating at the basement for about a week (likely mostly the result of gang violence on the streets, as the priest's dialogue lines strongly imply) before the cops and the National Guard decided to take over the building by force and destroy the dead in there, since the inhabitants were stubbornly refusing to handle the situation appropriately, i.e. incapacitate the brains of the dead to prevent them from coming back as zombies (precisely the very thing that Dr. Foster was complaining about at the TV station, a situation that he plainly says has been going on for about 3 weeks... DUH!) Does it sound logical to you that such things could be happening in a world where the zombie crisis has been going on for longer than just a couple or so weeks? The government is evidently desperately trying to stop the multiplication of the zombies at this point, that's why it is taking action as fast as possible and still taking over residential areas by force if necessary in order to enforce the new zombie "laws" that many people are stubbornly refusing to obey. The main point of the whole introductory sequence at the TV station & the forceful take-over of that residential building is to show us in fact that the zombie crisis has only been going on for a relatively short amount of time at the start of the movie. That's why many people still don't quite understand or stubbornly refuse to believe what the hell is going on. A valuable lesson could be learned from Philly...