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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Well i gues a couple of inches of ice would be enough for a couple of people, but what about if it's a couple hundred on the ice at the same time? Wouldn't it have to be significantly thicker? Maybe 6 inches? If that's the case one would imagine that would be enough.
    Six inches of water for a couple of hundred people? I figure it would have to be feet of water for that. Lots of feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximusIncredulous View Post
    Six inches of water for a couple of hundred people? I figure it would have to be feet of water for that. Lots of feet.

    Why not? How many inches of ice were they under in the freezer? The important part is that they be kept cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Why not? How many inches of ice were they under in the freezer? The important part is that they be kept cold.
    You have to take into consideration the whole volume of the freezer which was, what, 10'x10'? The entire freezer would contribute to keeping the bodies on ice. The rink didn't seem big enough to hold a couple of hundred bodies without stacking them. If stacking is needed, I figure about 1 foot of water per person. Then again there didn't seem to be hundreds of zombies locked in the mall for extermination so a good, solid foot of water should do. Water expansion as it freezes should cover any overweight bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximusIncredulous View Post
    You have to take into consideration the whole volume of the freezer which was, what, 10'x10'? The entire freezer would contribute to keeping the bodies on ice. The rink didn't seem big enough to hold a couple of hundred bodies without stacking them. If stacking is needed, I figure about 1 foot of water per person. Then again there didn't seem to be hundreds of zombies locked in the mall for extermination so a good, solid foot of water should do. Water expansion as it freezes should cover any overweight bodies.

    Sounds reasonable. Like i said, i know jack about ice rinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Sounds reasonable. Like i said, i know jack about ice rinks.
    Me too. I'm just taking shots in the dark.

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    But isn't speculation what this thread is all about? If it wasn't for what ifs we'd have nothing to post about.
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    Of course, the guesswork and speculation of posters here helps keep the films vivid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    Or full of stuff they didn't like, like lima beans?
    And when Peter made Fran and Steven dinner, didn't either of them wonder where Peter had gotten the food from??? Perhaps out of the zombie freezer!



    That's funny. That's definitely a good question. We don't know for sure if that was the only food storage area in the mall. It might have just been the biggest.

    Perhaps, Stephen was a bundle of nerves and Fran was too busy trying to think of a way to blow stephen off to notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Sounds reasonable. Like i said, i know jack about ice rinks.
    On NHL ice rinks, the ice is only a few inches thick. I would imagine that a non-professional ice rink would be about the same...maybe even less.

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    What about if the power company decided to shut down operations to the area? For instance, lets say their re-animated selves can't remember how to keep the machinery going at the power plant. Then you'd be stuck with hundreds of bodies rotting in the freezers and/or the ice rink. Quickly, it'll be one ecological disaster. I can see temporary storage on ice, but maybe they should have thought of a way to get the bodies up to the roof and over the side into the parking lot.

    Maybe sort sort of pulley system that went thorough the skylights so they wouldn't have to carrry those nasty bastards through their living areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    On NHL ice rinks, the ice is only a few inches thick. I would imagine that a non-professional ice rink would be about the same...maybe even less.
    That may be, but the question is this: would that be enough to store the bodies?
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    Cool but...

    Did everyone forget when they arrived @ the mall it had power but wasn't turn on.
    Remember Peter saying that then Roger hits all the switches!
    Now if the plague had been going on for weeks @ that point, then the mall must have also been abandoned that long as well!

    With that in mind im sure that food had already gone bad by the time they got there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD BEAT View Post
    Did everyone forget when they arrived @ the mall it had power but wasn't turn on.
    Remember Peter saying that then Roger hits all the switches!
    Now if the plague had been going on for weeks @ that point, then the mall must have also been abandoned that long as well!

    With that in mind im sure that food had already gone bad by the time they got there!
    My man, you're totally right!! BRILLIANT!! The plauge hd been going on for 3 weeks so one would imagine that the mall had been abandoned for atleast a week. Any perishables would have gone bad by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD BEAT View Post
    Did everyone forget when they arrived @ the mall it had power but wasn't turn on.
    Remember Peter saying that then Roger hits all the switches!
    Now if the plague had been going on for weeks @ that point, then the mall must have also been abandoned that long as well!

    With that in mind im sure that food had already gone bad by the time they got there!
    Incorrect about the power not being on. The ice in the rink would have all melted away and have drained out. It would have been nothing more than a wide open area of cement with drain graitings.
    It's a lot of effort to replace the ice in a rink and I'm fairly certain that these four people didn't have the ready knowledge to refreeze the rink once the power turned back on. Besides, remember on the roof after they first got there, Peter noted how it (the mall) still had power and he theorized it must be nuclear.
    Although it could just be that the ice rink still having ice was just a mistake on Romero's part. Something no one thought about. Well, except us and the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    Incorrect about the power not being on. The ice in the rink would have all melted away and have drained out. It would have been nothing more than a wide open area of cement with drain graitings.
    It's a lot of effort to replace the ice in a rink and I'm fairly certain that these four people didn't have the ready knowledge to refreeze the rink once the power turned back on. Besides, remember on the roof after they first got there, Peter noted how it (the mall) still had power and he theorized it must be nuclear.
    Although it could just be that the ice rink still having ice was just a mistake on Romero's part. Something no one thought about. Well, except us and the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons!
    The power was definitely on because when they first land on the roof you can see the lights on in the stores. Also, when they get to the control room the lights were on there also. I think that the power was indeed off to some things but not all.
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