Indiana Jones 5 (film)

[Neil]

Not really, the film is not due to be released until end of June. It's a vfx laden film and maybe they didn't want to test screen it before the VFX was serviceable. This schedule doesn't really strike me as that off. People should stop just whipping up insufferable hate against something that they might as well just skip altogether if they don't like the idea of it. Oh! It's June? I thought it was sooner than that. OK... Not sure it's "whipping up insufferable hate", more than double face palming when we're possibly facing the needless antics of rendering every Indiana Jones film in effect "deleted", even with 30yr old related TV episodes requiring scenes removing, all seemingly so some element of "the message" can now be shoe horned into Indiana Jones now. TBH, if the rumours are true, I'm surprised it's not a black female actress replacing Indiana Jones. Heck, it's akin to the nonsense they pulled with Dr Who, and continue to.

[EvilNed]

Oh! It's June? I thought it was sooner than that. OK... Not sure it's "whipping up insufferable hate", more than double face palming when we're possibly facing the needless antics of rendering every Indiana Jones film in effect "deleted", even with 30yr old related TV episodes requiring scenes removing, all seemingly so some element of "the message" can now be shoe horned into Indiana Jones now. TBH, if the rumours are true, I'm surprised it's not a black female actress replacing Indiana Jones. Heck, it's akin to the nonsense they pulled with Dr Who, and continue to. That's a big If.

[JDP]

TBH, if the rumours are true, I'm surprised it's not a black female actress replacing Indiana Jones. Don't forget gay. And obes... ahem! "large sized", too. And a senior citizen. And if she was paraplegic as well would not hurt. Cover as much "WOKE!" bases as possible, please.

[Neil]

That's a big If. No, this is a big IF

[Neil]

[MinionZombie]

Considering how many bad decisions, PR embarrassments, and box office disappointments Kennedy has overseen in the last several years, it's beyond baffling that she still has a job. What dirt does she have, and on whom?

[Neil]

The Galactic Starcruiser resort failing (so soon) as well must be a significant financial hit.

[JDP]

What the hell happened to Kathleen Kennedy? She used to be involved in the production of a whole bunch of great stuff in the 80s & 90s (Poltergeist, Indiana Jones trilogy, Back to the Future trilogy, Gremlins, Young Sherlock Holmes, Amazing Stories TV show, etc.), now she's like a mega-magnet for crap.

[Neil]

What the hell happened to Kathleen Kennedy? She used to be involved in the production of a whole bunch of great stuff in the 80s & 90s (Poltergeist, Indiana Jones trilogy, Back to the Future trilogy, Gremlins, Young Sherlock Holmes, Amazing Stories TV show, etc.), now she's like a mega-magnet for crap. I wonder how much is also the people they have around them. ie: Lucas managed to produce the original SW trilogy, but then produced the prequels

[shootemindehead]

Nothing happened to Kennedy. She's just a bean counter. A good bean counter. But a bean counter nonetheless. What she isn't, though, is a creative force. But she thinks she is now that she's been put in charge of Lucasfilm, and she has far too much say into how the movies and TV shows are made. However, she does get an unfair amount of criticism levelled at her. Because there's plenty of blame to go around for how poor Disney's output has been. Obviously she's front and centre and so will draw the most flak. But she's not solely responsible for the shoddy state of affairs going on at the house of mouse.

[MinionZombie]

The Galactic Starcruiser resort failing (so soon) as well must be a significant financial hit. A few hundred million here, a few hundred million there ... and there ... and also here ... and there as well ... what's there to worry about? What the hell happened to Kathleen Kennedy? She used to be involved in the production of a whole bunch of great stuff in the 80s & 90s (Poltergeist, Indiana Jones trilogy, Back to the Future trilogy, Gremlins, Young Sherlock Holmes, Amazing Stories TV show, etc.), now she's like a mega-magnet for crap. She was in the orbit of greatness, but is evidently nowhere near in the same league as those people she hung around. She worked her way up the ladder step by step, so kudos there, but the position she's in now? She's clearly not suited to it at all, hence the repeated mistakes - some of them to a mind-numbing degree of "you wot m8?!" ... and the aforemenentioned projects weren't driven by Kenndey, she was just a passenger on someone else's train. It seems when she's in charge the whole thing quickly goes off the rails. This isn't to say that the greats can't make mistakes themselves - as you say, the Star Wars prequels were ... ... yeesh. Similarly, Indy 4 had its fair share of issues - although it's still good enough to enjoy and, arguably, beats the snot out of a lot of new films being released today by the likes of Disney. Indy 4 wasn't the greatest way for the franchise to go out, but from everything I've heard about Indy 5, fuck me running. Really, Disney are far too large and they've got no oars in the water most of the time, and when an oar does dip into the raging torrents, it's either a case of just a bunch of flailing about to no effect or actual ability but in not enough abundance. They've just bought up major properties without truly understanding what made them great, threw oodles of cash at the projects while employing too many morons who don't know what they're doing (there's a reason so many VFX companies now despite Disney), and chased niche audience political sledgehammers to gradually corrosive effect. Just in terms of superhero movies and shows, the market has been utterly flooded and people are worn out. How they didn't see this happening is similarly baffling. They're completely out of touch with the audience and the direction of the winds. It's a factory churning out product that looks like something that was good, but they don't understand how and why the original stuff was good. Even the rare times things do work - like The Mandalorian (seasons 1 and 2) - inevitably it all goes arse-over-tit (Mando season 3!) ... *sigh* ... no wonder the shareholders are suing them! IIRC it's over projections for Disney+, which have turned out to be several shades of bullshit brown. That then skews off into the wider discussion about the business of streaming - sometime soon so many of these companies are going to have to merge into far larger services. You simply cannot sustain these services in the long run as most of them aren't making any money at all - they're black holes sucking in cash and putting out no profit at all. The likes of Amazon and Apple can easily manage such things financially, Netflix actually are profitable, but other than that? Doesn't look good, chums.

[MinionZombie]

Sounds great!

[Neil]

[EvilNed]

I saw the film and it's fine. It's not great, but it's completely ridiculous to call it a crime against cinema. Man I hate the internet. That heading is just made to generate clicks, glad I didn't provide.

[Neil]

I saw the film and it's fine. It's not great, but it's completely ridiculous to call it a crime against cinema. Man I hate the internet. That heading is just made to generate clicks, glad I didn't provide. I'll report back when I see it in a few months. Not going to the cinema to risk it. Would have been fascinating to see that original version where Indiana died and his niece then replaced him through history.