Just watched Dawn of the Dead 04 again....

[Trin]

One thing nobody can seriously deny with the Rings trilogy, is the sheer epic achievement of doing those three huge movies back-to-back with such reverence for the source material. Plus those 4-disc DVDs kick ass. True statements one and all. I had some minor points of wtf with some of the plot handling in LOTR compared to the books. But nothing too serious. In some areas they changed who makes certain statements, or who decides certain courses of action, and in every case I found it to the detriment of the story. But overall they stuck to the source material with far greater accuracy than most book -> movie translations.

[Mike70]

But overall they stuck to the source material with far greater accuracy than most book -> movie translations. yes they certainly did. i am one of the biggest middle earth geeks you are bound to come across but i'm not a purist (purists should all be burned at the stake). there were changes i didn't care for, like aragorn's reluctant hero bit and elrond's whining about arwen leaving for valinor) but given the way most books get raped when they are turned into films, the changes weren't too heinous.

[DjfunkmasterG]

Lord of the Rings is nothing but a bunch of people walking. I agree with everything Kevin Smith said about it as I finally sat down after 6 years and watched all three and was like, god these are BORING. Trilogies as good as the original Dead Trilogy. Clint's Spaghetti Westerns Original Star Wars That pretty much sums it up. Can't Include The Godfather because 3 Sucked balls Matrix... only 1 & 3 were any good, although 2 had the best action sequences Indiana Jones.... ruined on a count of the latest shitfest I would have said Lethal Weapon, had it stopped at 3, but they went to 4 and although 4 wasn't great it wasn't horrible either. Also, wasn't trying to slag DAY, but I think Romero peaked at Creepshow. I still like DAY, my favorite scene being the Fort Meyers opening, and John's Speech about God's Punishment of the human race, but Night and DAWN are leagues above DAY.

[shootemindehead]

Lord of the Rings is nothing but a bunch of people walking. I agree with everything Kevin Smith said about it as I finally sat down after 6 years and watched all three and was like, god these are BORING. Trilogies as good as the original Dead Trilogy. Clint's Spaghetti Westerns Original Star Wars That pretty much sums it up. Can't Include The Godfather because 3 Sucked balls Matrix... only 1 & 3 were any good, although 2 had the best action sequences Indiana Jones.... ruined on a count of the latest shitfest I would have said Lethal Weapon, had it stopped at 3, but they went to 4 and although 4 wasn't great it wasn't horrible either. Also, wasn't trying to slag DAY, but I think Romero peaked at Creepshow. I still like DAY, my favorite scene being the Fort Meyers opening, and John's Speech about God's Punishment of the human race, but Night and DAWN are leagues above DAY. Jesus...Smith has some nerve. The guy wouldn't even know where to start if he had to tackle a project as large as "The Lord of the Rings". ...and into the bargain, he hasn't made a good film since "Clerks". Also, Indiana Jones begins at "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and ends with "Temple of Doom" for me. "The Last Crusade" was mind-numbingly stupid and it remains a mystery to me why people hold it dear to their hearts. The first two are classic cinema, with Lucas and Speilberg on top of their game, but the third film is just irritating, littered with idiotic attempts at "humour" and failing miserably everytime it puts it on screen. And, as for "Return of the Jedi", every time I see one of those fucking teddy bears, I want to join the Empire. Ewok, my arse. Imagine how much cooler that film would have been if Lucas had retained his original idea and made Endor a planet full of Wookies!

[AcesandEights]

I agree with everything Kevin Smith said about it as I finally sat down after 6 years and watched all three and was like, god these are BORING. Right, well, thanks for the opinion.

[Mike70]

Jesus...Smith has some nerve. The guy wouldn't even know where to start if he had to tackle a project as large as "The Lord of the Rings". ugh. agree totally. kevin smith is one of, if not the most, overrated director in the biz right now. a ridiculous hack who seems to think that dick and fart jokes are the height of sophistication. his movies can have their moments but over the long haul, i get very tired of the sophomoric, immature, and profane nature of most of his "films."

[AcesandEights]

ugh. agree totally. kevin smith is one of, if not the most, overrated director in the biz right now. a ridiculous hack who seems to think that dick and fart jokes are the height of sophistication. his movies can have their moments but over the long haul, i get very tired of the sophomoric, immature, and profane nature of most of his "films." Yeah, I really, truly enjoy some of Kevin Smith's lighthearted stuff, but I'd like to see him successfully move his film making repertoire forward before he starts casting stones at kids movies, whose dramatic moments manage to resonate with more emotional intensity than 9/10s of what he's managed to put out on screen.

[shootemindehead]

I too, think that some of Smith's film are good. I liked "Clerks" and I quite enjoyed some of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back". But to reduce "The Lord of the Rings" to '...people walking' and calling it 'boring' and then returning serve with crap like "Mallrats" is enough to destroy Kevin Smiths opinion with ease. Game, set and match to Peter Jackson. No contest.

[darth los]

Also, Indiana Jones begins at "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and ends with "Temple of Doom" for me. "The Last Crusade" was mind-numbingly stupid and it remains a mystery to me why people hold it dear to their hearts. The first two are classic cinema, with Lucas and Speilberg on top of their game, but the third film is just irritating, littered with idiotic attempts at "humour" and failing miserably everytime it puts it on screen. And, as for "Return of the Jedi", every time I see one of those fucking teddy bears, I want to join the Empire. Ewok, my arse. Imagine how much cooler that film would have been if Lucas had retained his original idea and made Endor a planet full of Wookies! That's hilarious dude because when I saw it in the movies when I was 5 that's exactly what I thought they were!! Baby wookies !! I am in total agreement with you about the Indiana jones films as well.

[Trin]

Trilogies as good as the original Dead Trilogy. Original Star Wars Indiana Jones.... ruined on a count of the latest shitfest I would have said Lethal Weapon, had it stopped at 3, but they went to 4 and although 4 wasn't great it wasn't horrible either. If you're going to nuke trilogies based on movies numbered 4 and up then the Original Star Wars trilogy needs the boot. Which raises the very interesting question - is the Dead series as good as the Original Dead Trilogy? That is, did Land ruin the legacy because "they went to 4 and although 4 wasn't great it wasn't horrible either." Did Diary further put the nail in the coffin? Will "... of the Dead" redeem the series? Why hasn't anyone mentioned Revenge of the Nerds??

[Mike70]

Yeah, I really, truly enjoy some of Kevin Smith's lighthearted stuff, but I'd like to see him successfully move his film making repertoire forward before he starts casting stones at kids movies, whose dramatic moments manage to resonate with more emotional intensity than 9/10s of what he's managed to put out on screen. like i said above, some of smith's films have their moments but overall i cannot stand 85% of what he's done. they strike me as really immature, mostly idiotic and seem designed to appeal to people perpetually stuck in their freshman year in high school.

[darth los]

like i said above, some of smith's films have their moments but overall i cannot stand 85% of what he's done. they strike me as really immature, mostly idiotic and seem designed to appeal to people perpetually stuck in their freshman year in high school. Yeah, that schtick tends to wear thin pretty quickly and then it's just not funny anymore. Very few can make a career out of one particular film. (COUGH.....GAR......WHEEZE.)

[archivesofthede]

WARNING! Further flames of Kevin Smith will result in the casting of a series of Voodoo spells that will generate several nasty diseases to rot your fingers off. First Stormtrooper hate, now Kevin! KEVIN!?!?! What has come of the world?

[DjfunkmasterG]

If you're going to nuke trilogies based on movies numbered 4 and up then the Original Star Wars trilogy needs the boot. Which raises the very interesting question - is the Dead series as good as the Original Dead Trilogy? That is, did Land ruin the legacy because "they went to 4 and although 4 wasn't great it wasn't horrible either." Did Diary further put the nail in the coffin? Will "... of the Dead" redeem the series? Why hasn't anyone mentioned Revenge of the Nerds?? LAND ruins the Dead series, Diary inmy opinion saves it, "Of the Dead" is the nail in the coffin. In regards to NERDS, the only good one was part 1. it was Rated R, Raunchy funny, and awesome. Part 2 was retarded, and 3 & 4 were just utter trash. Yes there was a 4th nerds movie.

[capncnut]

LAND ruins the Dead series, Diary inmy opinion saves it, "Of the Dead" is the nail in the coffin. Weird, it's the other way around for me. While Land was FAR (and par) from the original trilogy, it squatted a gigantic loaf on Diary.