Tend to agree with Aces at least partially on this one,
I mean for awhile there the trail was still warm. Followed Merle's blood trail into the adjoining building (And WHY THE FUCK didn't we even KNOW THIS BUILDING EXISTED back in Ep. 2?), found where Merle cauterized his stump, and located probable zombie kills of Merle's. Then...nothing. There was nothing left to follow once they got to the "Why the fuck did he go outside through the window he busted out?" point. At that point, you tell me, how do you even PICK A DIRECTION to search in? This isn't the woods, and they aren't Native American scouts. Not much trail on asphalt unless your a tire being burned in a peel-out.
Totally agree that in the wake of the clusterfuck w/ the gangbangers (they took a hostage, threatened to throw said hostage off the roof unless they got their way, and were seemingly willing to engage in a horribly bloody gun-battle/melee with shotgun-wielding adversaries (Which the "Vatos" would've have lost, by their leader's own indirect admission. Remember him saying they welded all the other entrance/exits shut? That doorway they were standing in was THE ONLY entrance/exit.) All Rick and Co. had to do was lay down some of that sweet sweet buckshot as they withdrew, and take up positions covering the door. When the zombies start arriving due to the noise, haul ass up on to the rooftop access T-Dog used and go roof to roof. Let the 'bangers deal with the zombies.)...these are NOT moral people.
Hitler pulled strings to get his brother/half-brother set up in his own business. That doesn't make him a good guy. Taking care of a bunch of old people doesn't make that group of Latino Gangbangers anything More or LESS THAN gangbangers.
What really tied it for me though was G's willingness to let them leave the initial meeting with the teenager they were keeping prisoner. You can't get around the fact the man wrote off the well-being of his guy in the effort to get the guns. Ends don't justify means, ya know?
Whoever mentioned Daryl's Xbow bolts being contaminated hit the nail on the head. If you go back and watch it, you'll see that he was re-using the 4-5 bolts he could put in the holder on the crossbow, instead of reaching for his other bolts. He shot 4 zombies before the scene in the alley where he shot the gangbanger in the ass. That dude has a 4-in-5 chance that a bolt sticky with zombie gore ended up ripping into his buttock. Nice catch.
I'd been thinking about that ever since I saw Daryl shoot the zombie that was eating his deer, and the way he mentioned "think we can just cut around the chewed on part?"...It was symptomatic of his disregard for what bolt he shoots into what target. He's obviously not keeping track of "tainted" versus "clean" bolts, since he puts them all back on the bolt-guard on the Xbow.
Something occurred to me after thinking back on Ep. 1, where the group just barely caught a brief transmission from Rick in the squad car. It was broad daylight when Rick drove past and out of range of their radio, and it was BRIGHT broad daylight when he was approaching the horse and starting to ride off on it. It was STILL pretty bright out when he reached the camera shot of the Interstate choked with outbound cars, and STILL bright out when he ends up in the tank and then makes his run for it to Glenn. You can really tell how bright it is when they're up on the roof when Merle makes his power play.
Anyways, my point is, it was towards Noon when he drove out of radio contact, and going by the light couldn't have been more than 3 hours before he ended up in the tank, and then up on the roof. It's STILL good and light out when the survivors and Rick pull into the camp.
All this taken into account, as well as the department store being very near the city limit, it might've been as little as 60-75 minutes by truck to where they parked, and another 15 to walk to the department store. IF that's the case, the walk/run back to the camp (especially if they traveled as the crow flies due to being on foot) might have taken only 3x as long for Rick/Glenn/Daryl and T-Dog to hoof it back to camp. So many like 4 hours.
They left the city while it was still light out, but starting to dim towards sunset. My gut says 4:50pm-5:20pm as the time they left Atlanta. It was full dark, in the southern part of Georgia. We know its LATE autumn but CANT be winter yet, because it doesn't start being dark around 6-6:30pm here until late November/Early December. Ed was cold enough to put that log on the fire, but the whole group wasn't sitting there shivering with their teeth chattering, DESPITE the alcohol they were drinking. So probably November.
So, it was full dark and everyone was wound down and all relaxed and shooting the breeze about Dale's watch. That would put it at LEAST at 8:30pm, and probably later because the kids were wound down. That would give Rick and Co. Something like four hours and change to make the trip. At least. It could've been MUCH later by the time of the zombie attack. If it was even 10pm, it wouldn't be fun, but 4 healthy young men could walk/jog/run that return trip without HUGE difficulty. Being encumbered like they were woulda made it HURT, but it's a plausible timeline with an undisclosed amount of "flex time" favoring Rick and the others return to camp.
What do you guys think?
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