Poll: Which do you prefer? Romero's last 3 dead films or The Walking Dead?

[Legion2213]

Imo, the bottom line of why Gar is getting crushed in this poll is because the fans are getting what THEY want to see out of the genre in the form of TWD. This is something Gar seems tone deaf on as he marches on his zombie evolution tangent he's gone off on. A very stubborn Bush-like, "Stay the course" mentality for a hippie liberal no? It's like a relationship. If one person is not giving the other what they need they're gonna get it from somewhere else. I hope the godfather is taking notes. This pearl of wisdom was brought to you by Darth Los Industries...signing off with a since time began. Seriously though...the above hit the nail, right on the nose as far as I am concerned. Oh somebody mentioned about folks like myself judging "Survival" without even seeing it, I made a value judgement based on watching his last two films and what I know about "Survival"...suffice to say, I can't be bothered watching any more of GARs recent crap at this point.

[bassman]

This place is going to implode if they actually get Romero, like rumored, to direct an episode next season. I know Romero said that he would rather "stick with his own thing", but IF they work something out....it's going to be interesting around here.

[Legion2213]

Directing is a bit different than actually producing the script, dialogue and dictating what happens though isn't it? Now if GAR was to write an episode, dialogue, situation, what happens etc, I'd probably be very wary indeed. I think of GAR like Lucas...they both brought us an original trilogy of movies that really hit the mark and will be remembered for many generations...then they did another trilogy that was "a bit shit" really. Some of those "GAR vs TWD fans beating the shit out of each other" memes will probably be required at some point though.

[Thorn]

No contest. TWD. And I actually like Land... Like is a strong word No but really I did not hate land, I hated some portions of it but all in all I find it the best of last three Romero films. I have to say I have enjoyed TWD a lot more than Diary, and a hell of a lot more than Survival.

[Legion2213]

Land certainly looked the best visually out of the two new GAR films that I've seen. Cholo was also a pretty good character. I've watched Land a few times and I can switch off and enjoy some parts of it. Diary killed my tolerance of new GAR movies, I just hated it and everything about it. I own it on DVD and BD, I watched my DVD once and just can't be arsed watching it again on BD, not even sure why I bought it...loyalty I suppose.

[bassman]

Diary killed my tolerance of new GAR movies, I just hated it and everything about it. I own it on DVD and BD, I watched my DVD once and just can't be arsed watching it again on BD, not even sure why I bought it...loyalty I suppose. Don't feel bad....I did the same thing with Survival...

[krisvds]

Imo, the bottom line of why Gar is getting crushed in this poll is because the fans are getting what THEY want to see out of the genre in the form of TWD. This is something Gar seems tone deaf on as he marches on his zombie evolution tangent he's gone off on. A very stubborn Bush-like, "Stay the course" mentality for a hippie liberal no? It's like a relationship. If one person is not giving the other what they need they're gonna get it from somewhere else. I hope the godfather is taking notes. Waddaya know? The old man isn't making films for his fans but following his own instincts... Regardless. Isn't that what being an artist is all about? For better or worse that is.

[AcesandEights]

Waddaya know? The old man isn't making films for his fans but following his own instincts... Regardless. Isn't that what being an artist is all about? For better or worse that is. You bring up a good point we've touched on a few times before here and some of us get where you're coming from, some don't and a lot of people are in the middle ground, understanding GAR has a right and perhaps even an artistic need to do things his own way, but who nevertheless are still somewhat disappointed with not getting what we want out of Romero's recent efforts.

[Legion2213]

Well, if GAR wants to go his own, thats fine, but he is alienating a lot of his fanbase...don't know about you lot, but I've purchased several versions of every movie he has released (bar Survival)...VHS, several DVD versions and now Blu-Ray. I bet there are people reading this who have paid 1000's of dollars/pounds to support him over the years. I like to think that folks like myself have enabled him in some small way to continue making films and supported him financially and generally been beneficial to his "art", but I won't buy products that I don't like. *shrug*

[AcesandEights]

I like to think that folks like myself have enabled him in some small way to continue making films and supported him financially and generally been beneficial to his "art", but I won't buy products that I don't like. *shrug* Darth said it well earlier up the thread. Sometimes roads just split, GAR is going off in one direction and a lot of us in the other.

[Legion2213]

I think we need another "I'm leaving GAR and taking the kids" thread...

[MoonSylver]

Isn't that EVERY thread around here anymore?

[Thorn]

I am even cool with him following his own instincts, following his own vision, and telling the stories he wants to tell... that does not mean however we all have to like them or enjoy them. Sadly in life there is a time when we are all past our prime. Or there are artists who produce an amazing work and go on to paint or compose other offerings that fall short of their magnum opus. George is telling his stories and that is great, I reserve the right to be critical of them and it is okay. It is also okay that his best work is behind him. I think he could return to form, I have not given up on him I have too much respect for him. That is why the last three films have bothered me so much.

[bassman]

George is telling his stories and that is great, I reserve the right to be critical of them and it is okay. It is also okay that his best work is behind him. QFT. That doesn't only apply to the newer films, either. That can apply to any of them. Dawn has got some bad and laughable things sprinkled throughout, imo. That doesn't mean I'm going to "leave" Romero and tag a shit on his front porch. He should be able to take the criticism, and more importantly...take it into consideration. Not voicing your concerns will only make it worse....

[darth los]

Waddaya know? The old man isn't making films for his fans but following his own instincts... Regardless. Isn't that what being an artist is all about? For better or worse that is. You bring up a good point we've touched on a few times before here and some of us get where you're coming from, some don't and a lot of people are in the middle ground, understanding GAR has a right and perhaps even an artistic need to do things his own way, but who nevertheless are still somewhat disappointed with not getting what we want out of Romero's recent efforts. I can't believe we're here again but let's do it once more with feeling shall we? Yes, an artist should ideally have unfettered artistic freedom in order to realize his vision. Conversely, fans of said artist are just as free to criticize their work, which without fan support would be nothing. Once an artist takes one penny in exchange for their work they are no longer just an artist but a businessman as well. ( and for the life of me I can't think of a worse businessman than GAr who should by all rights have an empire rivaling that of lucas as we speak but that's for another thread.) So now that that's established, a business person to some degree or another beholden to the wants of their consumer base. They ignore that base and less people will by their product and in turn it will be icreasingly more difficult to find investors willing to fund his "art". Bottom line, it's bad business to be tone deaf on what your true fans want to see. If you want to be a true artist than fund yourself, be truly independant. That way you can go off on whatever ludicrous tangent you like without thinking about the people who put you in the position you are today. However, when a product is dependent on fan and investor support those things must be taken into consideration.