PJoseph, I do have to agree with you here.
I reacted to a situation where it seemed as if someone was saying that Apple sucks because someone had a corrupt project file after upgrading iMovie, and buying a consumer grade notebook with Sony Vegas solved everything.
It's not an accurate representation of the situation.
I mean think about it, would someone decide to buy a brand new computer based solely on that alone? No.
That Mac was probably old, and the owner was probably thinking of getting a new computer anyway, and the corrupt file was the catalyst of that decision.
Details like that are very important when someone is trying to make an informed decision.
I never meant that iMovie or Vegas were literally not "real NLE's", because they do edit video in a non-linear fashion.
I was basically trying to say that if someone wants their ideas to go further than for 'fun', or if someone might possibly want to explore editing in more than a hobbyist capacity, that something more industry standard might be worth looking into.
In the case of Final Cut, you can get an iMac and FCExpress. And if you did take it further, your experience with the Apple platform and Final Cut would payoff if you graduated into a professional capacity using FCPro on an Apple workstation.
The same is true for AVID.
And these things I can say out of experience.
However, I can't say that using iMovie or Windows Movie Maker could help much if you decided you wanted to take it further. Because apps like that use very sub-standard methods in favor of what I consider "over-simplifying" the whole process.
And it can be argued that these over-simplified methods could actually put someone at a disadvantage if they decided they wanted to go pro.
Especially if someone purchased a computer with sub-standard hardware, then decided they wanted professional software installed.
I sure never meant to "make them feel that they can't achieve telling a story by making them think they need to have the most professional equipment".
Because nobody who's serious would accept defeat so easily.
I used to use an old PC with Pinnacle, then with Premiere. I had a serious case of hardware envy. My current setup isn't the "most professional equipment", even if it WAS, it wouldn't be tomorrow.
The story is ALWAYS the most important thing, the tools are just tools.
My logic was just that by even considering taking a story to the level of any sort of finished video, the intent is more than just to show your buddies.
So somewhere in the mix there, you're thinking about having this idea produced and presented in some fashion.
So with that in mind, if the person is truly serious, it might be a good investment to get hardware capable of at least running the express version of an industry standard editor.
And well worth the investment needed to learn that software, along with traditional editing and film making concepts.
Otherwise, why not just write a short story or play/screenplay and save yourself the headache?
What's the point of going through the trouble of mustering all the resources required to make even the crudest of films, if you're not the least bit serious about the endeavor?
It seems (at least somewhat) that part of this discussion above about editors and platforms has alot to do with the price and complexity of the software, and the comittment required to get through the learning curve.
Which IMO, says alot about how serious the person is about the whole thing.
"All art is technology. And the artist is constantly bumping up against that technology"------George Lucas
I didn't mean to belittle anyone or make anyone feel they need the best stuff to do anything at all, I just wanted to interject some information into a discussion that was filled with very short questions and answers for what I consider to be a pretty important inquiry.
Sorry to all whoev' been offended or belittled.
Just as a side note:
Current Macs use Intel CPU's, and Apple has an app called Boot Camp, that allows you to dual boot WindowsXP.
So it's possible to use all your PC apps on Mac hardware (but why would you want to).
I have a G5, which runs on PowerPC CPU's, but I have a little app called VirtualPC which allows me to run an installation of Windows in a virtual machine directly from my OSX desktop.
Also allows me to run Slackware Linux or any of 10 or so other OS' right from my desktop.
So switching to Apple doesn't mean you leave the Windows world behind, it means you get the best of BOTH worlds.
Another way that Apple blows windows away, is that MacOS X has a few subsystems within it, called Coreimage, corevideo, coreaudio, and coreanimation.
Check it out for yourself---http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/coreimage/
Try this--Final Cut Studio
Shake
There's also the whole integrated color management.
In Windows, color management is done only by applications that support ICM, mainly Adobe products.
With Apple, the color management is system wide because MacOS X is a multimedia OS built that way from the ground up.
Ever wonder why when you see computers in movies they're most always Apple?
Because Apple computers are most always used to do the editing.
For most directors, there is no other choice.
Apple has all sorts of big names behind them.
Rob Zombie
Steven Speilberg
Kevin Smith
and on and on....
I bet if Romero was on that list everyone here would switch!
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I think I'd have jumped off something if that happened to me, I know I get into a major tizzy over a simple software crash-to-desktop without losing anything but a couple of moves, so ... damn, that sucks dude...it's things like that that make me paranoid so I keep backing stuff up constantly...
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