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    My school is under nazi rule...

    ...ok, not really. However, I just found out that my college has just become a smoke-free institution. Meaning there may not be any smoking ANYWHERE on college property, not even in your car in the parking lot!!! This is messed up because it seemed like damn near half the school is comprised of smokers and most people smoke on the quad, giving non-smokers PLENTY of space to walk around without having smoke in their face; very rarely does someone stand next to doors and smoke. Anybody caught using tobacco products will be FINED.

    This really infuriates me because having a smoke between classes really helps me get through the day... now I'm going to have to somehow do it in secrecy? I see this leading to the days of high school and the bathrooms will always smell like stale cig smoke. If they needed to absolutely do something like this, perhaps they should have created designated areas for smokers, so non-smokers could SURELY avoid it.

    I know it's my choice to smoke and nobody is forcing me to do it, but come on, isn't this a free country and aren't tobacco products legal?

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    Maybe try one of those electronic cigarette things?
    Last edited by bassman; 16-Jul-2009 at 01:21 PM.

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    Yikes. I couldn't imagine going to a smoke-free college. This isn't what you signed up for! Call the mayor!

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    Same situation with hospitals in the UK. Used to be you weren't allowed to smoke in the building, then they made it so you couldn't smoke anywhere in the ground, even in the car park, you have to actually walk hundreds of yards out onto a public street. However, considering all the nursing and medical staff working stressful jobs with extremely short breaks, the rule is widely flaunted. People just find places that are not well over-looked, and gather together to smoke (including some of the managers who are supposed to be enforcing the ban).

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    see i know people say its a stress relieving but isnt that just lessening the withdraw effect from tobacco's addictive properties? To be honest nobody needs cigarettes to live so i cant really get worked up about stuff like this, even if i had ever smoked id feel the same way. But i guess i grew up going to schools where we all had to wear uniforms and stuff so the change to college and uni was nice, except for the fucking art students hanging around right next to every damn exit waiting to blow a filthy smog of fag ash right in your face

    Your not gonna like what i say but cigarettes are not good for you and i dont honestly feel any sympathy for people who cant get through the day without something they didnt require in the first place, you probably think im harsh but if they did it at my uni itd be an improvement and my clothes wouldn't reek when i get home every damn day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    Your not gonna like what i say but cigarettes are not good for you and i dont honestly feel any sympathy for people who cant get through the day without something they didnt require in the first place, you probably think im harsh but if they did it at my uni itd be an improvement and my clothes wouldn't reek when i get home every damn day.
    I know what you're saying, but as an ex-smoker, I understand his point of view as well. He's not saying that it's his right to smoke on campus, just that it seems silly to cut off all smoking when some students obviously want to smoke. It would make much more sense to have a designated area instead of cutting it off all together.

    It's not his right to smoke, but it's his choice to smoke. And alot of people do....so give them a place to do it. People do unhealthy things everyday and it's each individual's choice. Cutting it off entirely on campus will probably only make more problems.
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    Hey, more people die from eating cheese and fat foods, yet they're even advertised on huge billboards. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    Your not gonna like what i say but cigarettes are not good for you and i dont honestly feel any sympathy for people who cant get through the day without something they didnt require in the first place, you probably think im harsh but if they did it at my uni itd be an improvement and my clothes wouldn't reek when i get home every damn day.
    Says the man who worked at McDonalds, peddling grease and heart attacks. . . . .
    "When the dead walk, we must stop the killing, or lose the war."

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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    Says the man who worked at McDonalds, peddling grease and heart attacks. . . . .
    im not aware of second hand cheese intake though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    im not aware of second hand cheese intake though.
    But you are aware of the staggering costs that obesity cause society, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    im not aware of second hand cheese intake though.
    On the other hand, I regularly see obese mothers feeding cheeseburgers to toddlers, I rarely see parents putting ciggies in kids' mouths.

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    thats completely different though, you can say "no thank you" to fatty foods, you cant when you leave a building and one of the smokers huddled under the roof of the doorway turns to you and blows a cloud of rank smog in your face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    im not aware of second hand cheese intake though.
    Cheese farts can be pretty deadly

    Everybody is going crazy with tobacco prohibition. Now they want soldiers to stop puffing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    thats completely different though, you can say "no thank you" to fatty foods, you cant when you leave a building and one of the smokers huddled under the roof of the doorway turns to you and blows a cloud of rank smog in your face.
    There's still two things you won't admit, it seems:

    - Fat food is more of a health issue to our society than smoking is. It costs more money and causes more deaths.

    - Unlike smoking, it is imprinted upon the young.

    Yet you won't find any colleges that have a fast food prohibition. Strange, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    There's still two things you won't admit, it seems:

    - Fat food is more of a health issue to our society than smoking is. It costs more money and causes more deaths.

    - Unlike smoking, it is imprinted upon the young.

    Yet you won't find any colleges that have a fast food prohibition. Strange, right?
    1: im not saying its less of a health issue, im just saying i can say "no thanks ill take the salad" i cant say "no thanks, keep the stuff your breathing into the air out of my air.

    2: Its only in the last 10 years medias stopped the image of "cool kids" being smokers, why else did most people take up smoking in the first place? "oh hey, this causes a number of debilitating diseases and can lead to cancer, sign me the fuck up!", no its always peer pressure of some sort, wanting to fit in with someone else, to be seen in a certain light with friends or family, sharing one with the old man as some recognition he thinks your an adult ect. ect.

    The long and short of it is people arent forced to smoke, they choose to, people around them dont have a choice however, now ill sit with friends on a day at uni at the local cafe and they'll smoke, even use a hooka or a sheesh pipe, do i tell them to stop?, no, but do i like it when it gets blown in my face?, of course not.
    And the fast food argument isnt really the same, yes its very bad for you, it shouldn't exist, but as living creatures we need to intake food as sustenance, fast food is just a lazy convenient way of doing so, its poor food to eat to be sure, but you need to eat to live, and its not all fatty food, so the fast food vs smoking argument isnt that valid. Everybody eats, a lot eat shit and thats there own fault, noone HAS to smoke to begin with and in this day and age with the knowledge of how bad it is my mind boggles when i see kids years younger than me taking it up when they know its not good for them.

    -Case in point a neighbor of mine is 14 years old, he is now in rehab classes to quit his heavy smoking addiction, he wears pactches, uses a little fake white plastic cigarette and gets angry, shakey and visibly worse for wear when he doesn't get his nicotine fix.

    Sure theres more cases of obese people out there, but there both problems, not alternatives, and is that really so much better than some fat guy in a double rascal eating his weight in mcnuggets?


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