The young, the infirm, the old, etc....

[Tullaryx]

Every zombie films I've seen never had kids, old people, or those who are handicapped or infirm in some manner as part of the group trying to survive. In the coming zombie apocalypse, would you --- with your skills and knowledge of what needs to be done to survive --- try and help kids, the elderly and the just plain sick and handicap survive? I would also add women who are pregnant and showing, and infants. Would you endanger yourself and/or your group to help these people who are pretty much defenseless?

[Adrenochrome]

We'd definitely need the kids around for re-population (eventually, of course) - They'd need to be educated on the basics and kept healthy so their generation could "fix things" and move on. I think with the elderly, it would have to be their choice; can they keep up, if not, do we fortify some sort of shelter for them to wait for death by natural causes? Or give them the option for euthanasia? As far as the preggers and the infants; you'd pretty much have to "endanger" yourself to ensure some sort of future for mankind. That, or just scavenge until you were the last "non-zombie"

[Tullaryx]

We'd definitely need the kids around for re-population (eventually, of course) - They'd need to be educated on the basics and kept healthy so their generation could "fix things" and move on. I think with the elderly, it would have to be their choice; can they keep up, if not, do we fortify some sort of shelter for them to wait for death by natural causes? Or give them the option for euthanasia? Yeah it's much easier for kids and the elderly. I think the hardest one to decide on, or maybe its the easiest depending on how badly one wants to survive, would be the mentally and physically challenged people. Anyone who has seen people take care, or anyone who has taken care, of a handicapped individual knows how exhausting it could be. I think with me, if I had to decide whats best for the group and I've been elected to make the hard decisions, I'd leave such people behind. It might sound coldhearted and callous, but they might just cause enough of a "distraction" from an incoming horde to allow the rest of the group to escape.

[Zombieapocalypse]

I think one way of looking at it is to take the "Experienced" individuals, such as military trained or the most experienced in your group (If your fortunate enough to have a group that is!) and Give each of them an assigned Partner. Like a buddy system. The preg's and the Toddlers with the MOST experienced and the elderly (pretty much walkin dead already, but still have a chance so why not give it to them) with the Semi-Experienced. at least one woman Strong enough to bear child at that time or at least within a reasonable time frame to survive is of the Utmost importance. The children should be trained to beaqr arms and brandish weapons if the need arises. Children can be very useful in tight situations. If you need to get into a place and the only available entrance is a Small crack in the wall or something of the sort I would send a well armed child in to do what is necessary instead of causing a scene and banging and breaking windows and doors.

[Adrenochrome]

I think with me, if I had to decide whats best for the group and I've been elected to make the hard decisions, I'd leave such people behind. It might sound coldhearted and callous, but they might just cause enough of a "distraction" from an incoming horde to allow the rest of the group to escape. I might try to find a place for them to, at least, try to live on; ask for volunteers that wiould stay behind and care for them. Afterall, we would still be human, and there would be those of us that were "caregivers". I would definitley want to survive, but, I would also want to help those that couldn't help themselves. Zombies would be humans reduced to animals; the survivors would still have human emotions. The children should be trained to beaqr arms and brandish weapons if the need arises. Children can be very useful in tight situations. If you need to get into a place and the only available entrance is a Small crack in the wall or something of the sort I would send a well armed child in to do what is necessary instead of causing a scene and banging and breaking windows and doors. excellent point

[Tullaryx]

The children should be trained to beaqr arms and brandish weapons if the need arises. Children can be very useful in tight situations. If you need to get into a place and the only available entrance is a Small crack in the wall or something of the sort I would send a well armed child in to do what is necessary instead of causing a scene and banging and breaking windows and doors. That's well and good if there was time to train kids to do such things. I think once a group has survived on the road or in a well-defended and well-stocked building then training kids to how to survive would be paramount, but during the initial outbreak they're really a liability. A liability that needs to be protected, but a liability nonetheless. I agree that kids should be protected at all cost and child-rearing women, but that would mean that hard decisions need to be made on the fly about how to run such a group. In all the good zombie films and books I've read it's always those who were helpless or untrained who put the rest of the group in danger. By keeping a tight, almost dictatorial leash on such people for their own and the group's safety, will survival go up instead of down.

[Zombieapocalypse]

It's true, I think that they are a liability. But without them, there is no future really. I am a cold hearted kinda guy I can promise you that if there was a situation and the Pregger or the child was infected I would have no trouble looking down the barrel of my 710 and making some lasagna for the group, BUT, it is important to remember the future in all of this as well ya know? As long as one woman or female child survives and one man or boy survives the future could, and I stress the word COULD, be much brighter. [QUOTE=Tullaryx]That's well and good if there was time to train kids to do such things. If the terrain allows for it I think an open field with plenty of view and plenty of open area this could be accomplished semi-easily?

[Tullaryx]

Actually, to make sure you have a stable genepool.. it would be ideal to have 4-5 young, child-rearing women. If the terrain allows for it I think an open field with plenty of view and plenty of open area this could be accomplished semi-easily? That would be the only time they could really practice. Which brings up the other factor. How much ammo could be set aside to train these kids?

[Svengoolie]

The upcoming film "Zombies" (originally a Tobe Hooper project) features a zombie attack with some kids amoung the featured survivors (the little girl from the Amityville Horror Remake is in that one). Don't know how good it'll be without Tobe, but I'll still give it a shot.

[Zombieapocalypse]

This is very true, without a stable gene pool, well, you end up with a remake of the "THE HILLS HAVE EYES" Did I say that? As far as the ammo situation, I learned the proper handling of a weapon when I was young without bullets. I think that if you have the knowledge to hold a weapon and you can at least fire once or twice (in this situation anyway) you can feel the weapons power and learn to respect it. But I do see your point, Its to hard to wast time and ammo providing there are enough people who are NOT kids who can brandish a fire arm. I would give my gun to a kid before giving it to an adult who may be un-stable. [QUOTE=Svengoolie]The upcoming film "Zombies" (originally a Tobe Hooper project) features a zombie attack with some kids amoung the featured survivors (the little girl from the Amityville Horror Remake is in that one). Is that the new movie MORTUARY I have heard so much about?

[Svengoolie]

I don't know. It's entirely possible, though. Here's a bit about it from a site run by a friend of mine--the post was made by a young girl who runs Chloe Moretz's fan site: Well, the movie was directed by Joe Cardone (aka J.S., as he is listed at IMDb). The movie stars Lori Heuring, Chloe Grace Moretz, and Scout Taylor-Compton. They filmed for 6 weeks in a small town in Bulgaria, where it was freezing cold. Unfortunately, they had a lot of outside scenes. I know there was a lot of blood involved in the movie and both girls had to be covered in fake blood, which was very sticky and gross. If there are specific questions, I can answer them better. I don't know what all to say when I'm given a general question. :P This is the plot from IMDb: Recently widowed Karen Tunney and her two daughters, Sarah and Emma, move to a remote mountain home which Karen has inherited from the family of her late husband. However, she is unaware that the home is situated near an old mine, the site of an early 20th century tragedy in which many children were buried alive... With the project changing hands like that, it's not just possible, but probable, that it got a name change as well.

[Zombieapocalypse]

Yeah, I think thats it. It will be on Sci-Fi channel (Not sure if Everyone has that or not..LOL) for its debut on Saturday at 9pm Eastern time. It looks pretty cool.

[Tullaryx]

I think the one good thing about training kids to handle a weapon, especially a comfortable enough sized firearm, is that kids are very malleable and faster to really train properly than adults. Really, an ideal type of firearm to give and train a kid on so they're usefulness ratchets up abit are .22 caliber long-rifle. the recoil is pretty non-existant and .22 caliber long-rifle ammo is one of the most common ammunition caliber there is. Hell, places like K-Mart and Wal-Mart carries thousands of such things. Not to mention any fishing and wildlife store.

[Zombieapocalypse]

Thats very true! And I think it would be the best choice to start off with as well.

[Tullaryx]

Next question would be...what would you do if someone in your group was bitten, even a small bite. Would try and take care of that person, use that person to help the group out until they can't anymore then either kill them before they die and reanimate, or wait til they do reaimate before killing them,.