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    Student tazered 5 times for not leaving the library, with video!

    If you don't enjoy some guy screaming in pain then don't watch it.




    Here are a couple news stories to explain what happened:

    Here and here and from the UCLA student paper.

    It's getting a big response from the sites I've seen it posted on.

    In my opinion, the cops used the tazer way too much. A tazer should only be used if the cop is in any danger, the student was a weed and they could have frog marched him out without any use of the tazer. I would have accepted a quick electric shock and then dragging him out, but to shout at him to stand up while his body has been immobilised is idiotic.

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    disgusting. i can't believe how many times they used it on him!
    unless he had weapon those guys should be joining the unemployment line, and possibly facing assault charges, in the near future.

    would be grateful for any updates on this.

    god bless youtube & digital technology, this would all be denied otherwise.

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    jesus christ on a trike, but i aint surprised people who become cops were ethier bullyied at school and want payback or the stand in front of a mirror with a gun giving the speech from tazi driver explaining why there king of the universe


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    Sick F/ucking bastards... there was no need to taser the guy!!

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    That is completely and utterly sickening. I can't believe this has actually happened, it's a total, complete and utter abuse of power. FIVE times?! ONE was too many. How the hell is someone who has been tazered supposed to be capable of standing - tazing is to incapacitate, hence - NOT STANDING UP. What a bunch of f*cking morons those campus cops are.

    I hope those campus cops get fired and disciplined for an exceptional abuse of power and in front of a myriad of students, security cameras and camera phones too - what friggin' idiots. It's dickheads like those campus cops that give Americans in general a bad name.

    And did I hear right, but right at the end one of them says to someone rightly and justly confronting them 'get back or get tazed', did I hear that?!

    Geezus that is disgusting. Like I said, I hope those responsible are severely dealt with, even an untrained chimp could see that is a horribly sadistic abuse of power. If I was the victim, I'd be on a media campaign to sort that sh*t out, get me some compensation and have justice served.

    Read the article and it's still an extremely sadistic use of force. Just because he's foreign, doesn't make him a terrorist. All because he forgot his card? Geezus, how many students have forgotten their library card before? I know I have on a couple of occasions, and sometimes you really need to go to the library to get a book or use a computer or whatever. To be tazered when you haven't been allowed to explain your situation is ridiculous - what is also absolutely disgusting is that he was tazered while he was HANDCUFFED.

    This is one of those situations where I'd actually support the guy choosing to sue, because that situation was completely horrific. Also interesting that the guy who was told 'get back or you'll get tazed' was only (and justly) asking for a badge number. To tazer someone for such a justified request is actually against the law - you would have thought even chimp-brained campus cops such as that guy would have known where he stood within the law, geeeeeez.

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    First of all.....buddy needs to learn how to HOLD A F*CKING CAMERA STEADY!

    Second....were those real cops? The few good looks that I got at them, they looked more like rent-a-cops.

    Third....Some of the students should have got together a fair-sized group and taken the cops down and then ran for it.

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    yeah, i know it's easy to say this and harder to do it, but at the college i used to go to (bridgwater, excellent facilities but particularly scummy), if someone treated a student like that and they weren't a real cop, they'd be happy slapped to the point where they'd take their next doughnut through a tube.

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    A few observations:

    It was after 11pm at the University library. Apparently random ID checks are done by security to make sure only students are in the library after hours.

    Had the kid simply shown his student ID to the campus security, this incident would not have happened.

    Things were already underway when the video starts. By the time the camera focuses in the young man is already yelling at the campus security officers. Apparently he is on the floor and refuses to identify himself or stand up.

    Had the kid simply stood up at this point and let the officers escort him from the building, this incident would not have happened.

    When he refused to stand up and leave the library, at that point the student was wrong. Sounds like the kid was trying to push the issue with campus police citing the Patriot Act and all the rest. He got smart so the cop pulled out a stun gun.

    After the first shock the student could have complied with the officers directions. Instead he started screaming and becoming abusive. Failing to respond he got another zap.

    At this point things get murky. The kid is yelling and screaming on the floor, while the campus police tell him to get up. It's unclear the duration the stun gun was used on the student. A brief shock is enough to drop anyone to the ground. Extended use will cause a temporary paralysis effect for a short time that you can't walk.

    I think had the kid shut up the cops wouldn't have kept stunning him.

    Then things get ugly with the crowd. The officers are trying to deal with the screaming kid while the group of students gets hostile. Surprised one or more of the bystanders didn't get pepper sprayed.

    The university is in deep over this one. Bet that kid is getting calls from all kinds of attorneys willing to take his case. If the school is smart they will try to settle this out of court with a large cash award and a confidentiality agreement. But the use of force question remains...

    This is why it's a good idea to have campus police officers also certified as city police. They have both the training to deal with these kinds of incidents and the legal authority to arrest the student when failed to leave the building.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyebiter View Post
    I think had the kid shut up the cops wouldn't have kept stunning him.
    Perhaps,

    BUT, since when is running your mouth a crime punishable by 5 shots from the tazer?

    Freedom of speech in this country is Bullocks when you got power hungery rent-a-cops like that around.

    I am sorry if this sounds combative, but your post makes it sound like you are taking up for the the rent-a-cops and trying to blame this on the kids actions. He wasn't wrong for screaming and yelling (Especially since he was just tazed) and he damn sure wasn't breaking the law!
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    Was campus security using a stun gun on the student five times excessive? Absolutely. As mentioned above I'm guessing the kid's parents will file a lawsuit and win a substantial monetary award.

    But I still think the library patron was in the wrong.

    1. His decision NOT to show a university student ID while in the campus library AFTER 11pm is what instigated the incident.
    2. His decision NOT to allow the campus security officers to physically escort him from the building escalated the incident.
    3. Becoming abusive and screaming is not the best way to respond to campus security or the police.

    Having worked in a library, my perspective is different. When a problem patron starts yelling and screaming inside a branch there is literally no telling what will happen. Could tell some great horror stories about how wild people act in libraries, having seen the cops drag people outside on more than one occasion.

    I understand the student's civil liberties concerns being asked to "show me your papers." To be honest I don't like the Patriot Act or any of the other post 9/11 legislation either. But that is the reality of the world in which we live.

    But I still say had the kid just shown the campus security guy his student ID this whole thing would not have happened.
    Last edited by Eyebiter; 17-Nov-2006 at 06:22 PM.


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    Apparently, it was 2 library security that asked him to leave and when he didn't comply the cops were called and 2 officers came.

    Also, one of the cops did say he would tazer one of the students, because the student asked for his badge number.

    EDIT: Another update. Apparently it was the 'university police' who did the tazing.
    Last edited by LoSTBoY; 17-Nov-2006 at 05:41 PM.

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    First he's not foreign. Second I'm sure he's tired of getting singled out. I have been abused by cops and you know when they are being bigots.
    They were torturung the man and it was obvious.
    The reason why people don't riot on cops becase they are armed, tyrannical and ruthless. In the UK you can fight the cops because they wont fill you full of lead.

    I dont care if he should've shown his ID. The cops couldve carried him out, but they chose to torture him with electric shock and didnt give a damn how many witnesses because theire procedure will be made to fit after the fact.

    I find defending this behavior revolting. You should not comply with fascists. It is the duty of a true American to resist oppression. Some will always find excuses to justify Police actions of any variety which leads this behavior to continue in perpetuity.

    I am disgusted by this incident, another in a long line of Abuse by Govt. Thugs.

    If you people outside of America wonder why we dont stand up to the tyrants more, THIS is why. Stand up to get beat down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyebiter View Post
    Was campus security using a stun gun on the student five times excessive? Absolutely. As mentioned above I'm guessing the kid's parents will file a lawsuit and win a substantial monetary award.

    But I still think the library patron was in the wrong.

    1. His decision NOT to show a university student ID while in the campus library AFTER 11pm is what instigated the incident.
    2. His decision NOT to allow the campus security officers to physically escort him from the building escalated the incident.
    3. Becoming abusive and screaming is not the best way to respond to campus security.

    Having worked in a library, my perspective is different. When a problem patron starts yelling and screaming inside a branch there is literally no telling what will happen. Could tell some great horror stories about how wild people act in libraries, having seen the cops drag people outside on more than one occasion.

    I understand the student's civil liberties concerns being asked to "show me your papers." To be honest I don't like the Patriot Act or any of the other post 9/11 legislation either. But that is the reality of the world in which we live.

    But I still say had the kid just shown the campus security guy his student ID this whole thing would not have happened.

    From what I read, he didn't have his ID on him and told the officers that (I know when I was in college, I forgot my ID all the time, not too uncommon)

    Also, When they asked him to leave (read the report) he WAS complying and WAS leaving the library until the "officer" decided to put his hands on the kid. It says the kid jerked away from the "officer" and said "get off me!" and that's when it got outta hand.

    Po po ain't got no right to put thier hands on you of you are complying. I absolutely sure this kid knew where the door was and didn't need this asssholes hands on him!

    Why do the cops think they have to put thier hamds on you when they tell you to go somewhere, even when your going, they still wanna put thier damn hands on you.

    This is a clear case of Ethnic profiling! These assshole cops were getting off on thier power trip, I hope every damn on of them loses thier job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coma View Post
    You should not comply with fascists. It is the duty of a true American to resist oppression. Some will always find excuses to justify Police actions of any variety which leads this behavior to continue in perpetuity.
    NOT showing your BruinCard (the official campus identification for UCLA, and is required for all students, faculty, and staff) is a fight against fascism?


    http://www.bruincard.ucla.edu/default.shtml


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    Fascist? I think real fascists would have shot the little prick to make an example of him.

    He brought this on himself.

    -stray-

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