Bias in the workplace... ever seen any?

[MissJacksonCA]

A woman who worked for Wal Mart was recently awarded $2 million dollars because of a bias WM had against women. I was wondering has anyone seen bias of anykind where they worked? I've personally seen a lot of sickening habits... Costco would purposefully shave hours off of their employees who spoke English as a second language (oddly not Mexicans but Iranians) and hoped that they wouldn't say anything... most didn't but those who did wound up getting the proper pay. When I got promoted my boss actually told me to do it and of course refused and quit. My first job at the Nite Hawk was kinda biased... I was the tallest and strongest girl working there so I was the one who had to do the dishes because the dishwasher was obscenely high... that sucked! My job here in Charleston for 2 years with the Noisy was biased all over. They never once hired a black person to work in the front of house and when they refused to hire a black young girl she stood up and started screaming about how they were racist and she was calling an attorney. Be it as it may she wasn't going to be hired because while waiting to be interviewed she sat on her boyfriends lap and made out with him. But it was at the next manager meeting where they actually wrote down and discussed the sudden necessity for hiring a light skinned black female. It was actually in the meeting notes! Then when it came time to promoting bartenders the men were basically passed up every time and only women were being given those positions. Of course naturally because most of the bar clients were men they'd rather look at a woman than a dude. It didn't stop there... they all but refused to hire female managers for any position aside from the bar manager and the managers they hired tended to be total male pigs who made inappropriate comments about females who worked there and female customers. And the way the company dealt with sexual harassment left a world to be desired. I've worked in a few other places where no discrimination was evident. When I worked as a greenskeeper for the area I lived in in Canada it seemed equal across the board. When I worked for a gym it all seemed level. But I find that when I worked some place where there was a bias it tended to only get worse over time. Have y'all as mostly men ever experienced bias?

[darth los]

Maybe a little off topic , but I feel that sexual harrasment especially in the workplace is a textbook example of the double standard at work. I'm not even talking about telling a chick she has a nice rack. (when did that go out the window by the way ) As a man i'm afraid to discuss anything work related because it might be misconstrued as sexual harrasment, especially in the field of law which i am currently studying.

[MissJacksonCA]

dont be afraid darth ... we're all pretend friends here

[darth los]

dont be afraid darth ... we're all pretend friends here Pretend or not. i like you guys better than most of the people i know personally. Maybe it's because you're so far away. the grass is always greener till' it's in you're face bumming 20 bucks off of you. ( i think that's how it goes ).

[DeadJonas190]

Yes, I see it all the time. One time that comes to mind is at the video store I work at, we had a guy have a really good week as far as his sales goals went. He always worked with one of the managers when he was selling crazy amounts of product and isntead of that employee getting the recogniziton for his sales, an award was given to the manager for excellence in motivating employees in sales... never mind he didn't motivate anybody, the motivation was that we were told if we didnt sell X amount of items that week we would be written up. That is why every time you go into a certain video store chain you are asked to buy at least 2 different things during the check out process. We are told to do it because "It's your job" and that if we dont sell a certain amount of a program per week we will get written up. Nevermind the program they want us to sell to every customer will put us out of a job... and that we have been promoting it to every customer for a year and a half now without any breaks. Over-promotion and the fact that people like to be outside instead of inside watching movies this time of year is the reason why sales are low, but we get blamed for it.

[MissJacksonCA]

That reminds me of my job at the Noisy too... if we didn't make certain sales goals (imagine that? a restaurant with sales goals)... we had "saturday school" at 8am on Saturday (if you worked the Friday the night before you were prolly up til 1 or 2am) and after 3 Saturday schools you were fired... the managers "pet" was there every weekend for 2 months... this guy Jeremy went 3 times and was fired... he made a stink about it and they gave him his job back... but only because it was a holiday and they needed extra staff... so they fired him on Monday... again... it was such bull****... But yeah I see a lot of male coworkers harassed by certain girls too... I always kinda figured they enjoyed it but I never participated... I just thought it was dirty...

[coma]

I have had gay dudes come on to me, sometimes pretty hardcore, and I tell em It aint going to happen. I hate when old gays treat you like a girl ( the way pigs treats girls) trying to touch your lower back, smacking their lips, when they know youre strait and obviously uninterested. I worked in a place with a lot of gay customers and some were really nasty. They tried to take advantage, in that case, of a PC atmosphere where any behavior is excused. I've had girls push up on me hard (including at wok) and when I am not interested it is very uncomfortable when they refuse to get the hint. A lot of girls think that cause a lot of guys are girl crazy they can just grab you jimmy on a whim. Those girl are usually not attractive btw, not always but often.. More than a couple times I had girls into me and when they discovered I wasnt into them they made a concerted effort to make me miserable and call me an asshole at every opportunity. A couple of these went on for a long time. some guys would kill for those problems, but not me Once I was working my last day at a job and this jail guy caught me in a back room and started getting too "friendly". I thought I was going to fight my way out of there until he backed off. CREEPY. I used to be a bartender and, regardless of their ability to fill the cash box, you always lose shifts to tits.

[MissJacksonCA]

I can remember having a customer blatantly sexually harass me. I mean you have to have a tolerance for certain kinds of harassment when you're peddling booze at a bar but the guy actually asked me to go to his table and tell him how I made his drink and I told his server to tell him to sod off but he pleaded with me to talk to the dude. Next thing I know i'm standing there in front of 4 guys and the one guy seemed to have some pathetic need to try to show off for his buds and started feeling my ass and my leg... I told him personally to get a life and get out of the bar and then he asks to speak to the manager (who at the time was the bar manager and the only person of authority in the house lol) and so she takes me over to the table with her to discuss the complaint... next thing I know he's feeling her up and when she realizes what he's doing she's like excuuuuse me sir you're going to have to pay your check and leave... it was funny in hindsight but I was two seconds from grabbing a beer bottle and showing him how to use it in a prison fight scene or something

[darth los]

I've had girls push up on me hard (including at work) and when I am not interested it is very uncomfortable when they refuse to get the hint. A lot of girls think that cause a lot of guys are girl crazy they can just grab you jimmy on a whim. Those girl are usually not attractive btw, not always but often.. More than a couple times I had girls into me and when they discovered I wasnt into them they made a concerted effort to make me miserable and call me an asshole at every opportunity. A couple of these went on for a long time. some guys would kill for those problems, but not me That's a very good point. Most women just are not used to being rejected. When they are there automatically has to be a problem with you. Either you hate women or you're gay. it's too funny really. Ironically in the end they look like the ones who are psycho. Most women are emotionally under developed.

[Chic Freak]

Most women are emotionally under developed. This in a thread about prejudice :/

[darth los]

This in a thread about prejudice :/ Women are emotionally needy. They need approval and someone to make them feel good. If they didn't they wouldn't be asking if their asses look fat in those jeans when the answer is obvious. They're dependant on the opinions of others in order to feel good about themselves. Most women need emotional coddling. Now whether it's a good thing or not is certainly up for debate. I would list more examples but i think i made my point.

[MissJacksonCA]

This is mildly disturbing... Let me start off by assuring you that, as cliché as it sounds, I am a happily married woman. It just so happens that I like a healthy dose of flirtation here and there. As many people can attest to, going to work is not always fun. Going to work 31 weeks pregnant... well that's just a pain my sciatic nerve. I need motivation to stay awake in long meetings. Some days I need an incentive just to get out of bed. The work boyfriend is the perfect solution to this. Heating things up at the office helps to ward off boredom. Whenever I start a new job, I scope out the office for the best possible candidate. Someone who is basically attractive, witty, willing to flirt back and completely unavailable. A gay male is usually a good bet, though not usually interested in reciprocal flirtation so much as mutual admiration. (Think Clinton Kelly and Stacy London of What Not to Wear.) I find young single guys are best, because they are able to separate a bit of fun giggles and playful slaps on the arm from a downright solicitation to an affair. Plus these fresh out of college man-boys have no interest in ruining my marriage and having to take care of my child and pay my mortgage. My husband is aware of my need for a work boyfriend. He likes to make fun of me about my crushes. The reason I tell him is simple: I have nothing to hide. It's totally innocent fun. He's more than welcome to a work girlfriend, however he works for a sports TV network -- so the ratio of men to women is not in his favour. (Aw, shucks.) Let's be clear -- I'm not willing to throw my marriage away or do something I'd regret. I just need a little ego boost here and there. Someone to stare at during the PowerPoint presentation, or doodle little notes to in a conference. Someone to sit next to and snark with at the company dinner. Someone who reminds me that I've still got it. Silly? Maybe, but oh so fun. read that on careerbuilder...

[darth los]

WTF are you doing to me woman!?! I thought you had us fooled. Put that in italics next time or something .lol I thought you were telling us who you really were.

[MissJacksonCA]

comeon now you know i'm not married... though if i had multiple personalities i suppose i wouldn't know if my alter ego was married ...

[darth los]

comeon now you know i'm not married... though if i had multiple personalities i suppose i wouldn't know if my alter ego was married ... That's just it. On the internet you can be whatever, how are we supposed to know. We only know what you tell us. I thought you were coming clean. lmfao