Curing gay people of gay-ness... wtf

[Chic Freak]

Is he supposed to look like a crying baby? The NAMBLA people say they are defending a childs right. they say: "Where is a child rights to be able to say no if they cant say yes?" Huh, what? Who are NAMBLA and what are they on about? Please explain

[krakenslayer]

Huh, what? Who are NAMBLA and what are they on about? Please explain North American Man-Boy Love Association: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambla

[Chic Freak]

North American Man-Boy Love Association: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambla a "support group for intergenerational relationships"?! Now I've heard it all. Nothing wrong with having an age gap in a relationship guys but at least wait until they're 16

[krakenslayer]

What annoys me is that pedophilia IS listed in the DSM. That is not a mental condition, it is a perversion. Putting it in the DSM allows lawyers to get child molesters into hospitals and on depro-provera instead of in jail where they belong. It makes sex with minors, even small children a 'disease', to be treated and not punished. I find the idea of anyone trying to have sex with children disgusting and tragic (for the victim), HOWEVER thanks to the media's attempt to sell papers by stirring up salacious controversy, a lot of people are unaware that "paedophile" and "child molester" are, legally and psychologically, not always the same thing. In psychology word paedophilia does not refer to the ACT of having sex with children, it refers to the unnatural URGE to do so. Just because a person has these thoughts does not mean they will necessarily be willing to rape a child. In fact, studies by the likes of Alfred Kinsey show the vast majority of people who suffer from these urges are just as disgusted by them as we are and would never act upon them. Only paedophiles who have an inability to control their sexual appetites, or are otherwise psychotic, actually go on to molest children. Of course, people who molest children should go to prison for a long, long time and get bum raped by a butch biker gang while they're in there. But I would argue that paedophilia, along with any other compulsive perversion that is potentially damaging to the individual or others, is a psychiatric illness and should not be treated any differently to, say, schizophrenia. Here's why: if you treat it purely as a criminal thing based entirely upon whether or not a person has actually attacked a kid, then what about the people who are struggling to contain those urges? They're going to be too scared and/or unable to come forward to a doctor and get psychiatric help to prevent them acting on it. So what happens if, without help, it escalates to the point where they can't stop themselves? Then you end up with another child molester and more traumatized children, a situation which could have been avoided if only psychological treatment was available.

[darth los]

And it is indeed a poor reflection on society as a whole that apparently such a large number of people are so miserable about being gay that they would consider doing this. That happens all the time in our society. People have to fit into the box of what the popular perception SAYS is acceptable. Many women, for example, are made to feel less than beautiful because they don't look like what the fashionistas say is beautiful. As a resullt, they spend their entire lives trying to "improve" themselves. That's why self esteem is so important. It's not so much a conciet issue as just knowing who and what you are is no matter what anyone says or thinks.

[kortick]

No. I am not saying that people who have fantasys about sex with children should be put in jail. I am saying that when they ACT on those urges and cross the line from thinking it to doing it then the fact that pedophilia is listed as a mental illness should not be a reason for them to escape legal punishment. But this just is in reference to homosexuality not being a mental condition that can be cured. No more than one could 'cure' a heterosexual into being homosexual.

[krakenslayer]

No. I am not saying that people who have fantasys about sex with children should be put in jail. I am saying that when they ACT on those urges and cross the line from thinking it to doing it then the fact that pedophilia is listed as a mental illness should not be a reason for them to escape legal punishment. But this just is in reference to homosexuality not being a mental condition that can be cured. No more than one could 'cure' a heterosexual into being homosexual. Oh, in that case, I totally agree.

[strayrider]

dude, you forgot your smiley face. Yeah, Stray. Why so serious? Wisdom with a smile, please I was trying to be a compassionate, caring right-wing nut-job. -stray-