MMA fighter takes shrooms - RIPS HEART OUT OF TRAINERS CHEST!

[MikePizzoff]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...owells_he.html Holy shit. Dude definitely gulped down way too much of that tea.

[EvilNed]

Strangely enough, that kind of behaviour fits in perfectly with these dudes...

[AcesandEights]

Aside from the horrible nature of the case, this did get my attention: "My client was trying to silence the devil," Fallman said. I know he's talking about the dayyyy-vil of hallucinogenic tea, but I gotta stop and take a breath when I see courtroom guff like that. Yeah, yeah, I know it's out of context. I just hope the prosecutor countered with: "Now ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just a simple country-type lawyer, but..." the act of removing Powell's heart, tongue and face took enough time to prove evidence of intent.

[darth los]

If he could take his trainer apart like that then he had no business training in the first place.

[bassman]

The title of this thread is misleading. He cut out the heart. Not rip it out. I was expecting something more along the lines of the dream sequence in Dumb and Dumber. And where the f*ck did he get shrooms that made him go that nuts? Acid, sure....but shrooms? Damn...

[EvilNed]

Never tried shrooms, but I've tried something similar. I don't know. I'm pretty sure that given the right (or "wrong" rather) circumstances, anyone could go crazy when under the influence of those things.

[Tricky]

One of my mates went barmy on shrooms when we all went to Amsterdam a couple of years back, obviously nothing as crazy as this dude, but for some reason he thought that we thought he'd been stealing from us, I was on my own having a nap in a room we were renting while they were all smoking skunk & eating trays of mushies in the other (I stopped doing drugs way before that), and he came wandering in saying "for fucks sake what is it you think ive stolen from you???" and he wouldnt let it drop, I was getting pretty scared of him & worried he was going to get violent, eventually I went & got the others and we all set about calming him down, but it took well over 3 hours to stop him being a paranoid wreck & just when we thought we'd got him back down to earth he would flip again! he kept crying, then getting angry, then babbling paranoid shit, then crying again, then acting as if something we couldnt see was winding him up! Normally he was always a wreckhead who never reacted badly to drugs, but those mushies combined with everything else he took that day really sent him over the edge!

[LouCipherr]

Well, I'll be odd man out here and just admit it: I've done both (acid and shrooms), and in some pretty large quantities - neither of them made me want to rip out the guts of any of my friends. I might want to laugh at them all night, or get a major case of "get the hell away from me, you're getting on my nerves" syndrome, but that's as far as it went. Now, that being said, I did these things willfully and knew what I was in for when I ingested them. It sounded like in this story, the guy's drink was spiked and had no idea what was coming. If that's the case, and you have never experienced these things before, I could see someone flipping out. Not sure if they'd go as far as to tear someone apart like this, but I guess it's possible...? People can apparently have some very different reactions to the stuff.

[bassman]

Good point, Lou. But still...Shrooms?? Maybe I just had weak shrooms, but they were always the least effective of the hallucinogens. Acid was first, Peyote(mescaline) second, and shrooms last. I could've taken shrooms and passed a driving test. The only bad trip I ever had was on acid and I just got sick. It was shitty, but I definitely didn't consider cutting out a person's heart...

[LouCipherr]

Good point, Lou. But still...Shrooms?? I know, shrooms (for me, at least) were always the weakest of the group no matter how much I took. I've never had major hallucinations on shrooms, but on acid, ooooooh yeah. Nothing that took me completely out of reality, but boy was it interesting (for lack of a better word). I guess it also depends on the shrooms. P. Cubensis (which is what most people end up taking and use it as the reference point for 'shrooms') isn't the most potent, either. There's also P. Cyanescens which, from what I understand, is the same as cubensis only 10-20x more poweful. I'm sad to say I've never had an experience with them. lol For the record, out of all the times I took these things, I never had a "bad" trip. I had one or two that were a bit uncomfortable (because of surroundings) but I always made it a rule that before you ingest anything that's going to possibly "change your reality" you had better be in a good fucking mood and mindset prior to taking them. Otherwise, you're in for a world of shit.

[AcesandEights]

While it can be said that one never knows exactly how an individual will react to a given drug, I can safely say mixing shrooms and hash was, for me anyway, inexplicably wonderful, I guess are the only words that I can use in summation. But, yeah...I wonder how quickly they got a blood sample out of this guy. It'd be nice to know exactly what was in that cup of excuses...I mean tea.

[slickwilly13]

I have only seen one person become violent after taking shrooms. But she also had mental problems to begin with. This could be the case, also.

[bassman]

I speak for myself, mind you, and would never do them again. I wouldn't either....but you know you would want to. I've had all of the above offered at a few shows since starting the whole family thing and daaaamn was i tempted.

[LouCipherr]

I wouldn't either....but you know you would want to. I've had all of the above offered at a few shows since starting the whole family thing and daaaamn was i tempted. In a heartbeat I'd do acid again! Sheeeit, I'm pushing 40 and I'd do it no questions asked (as long as the time/place was right). Some of the best experiences of my lifetime were had under that influence. I'm wondering if it was something else in that cup other than mushrooms... Now I'm starting to wonder. I know Salvia (evil shit, let me tell you) will stomp you into the ground and leave you begging for mercy, but you have to either A) smoke it, or B) chew a fair amount of the leaves. But, that stuff? I could imagine someone ripping out someone else's guts and not even realizing they did it afterwards. Spooky shit, so just say no. Unless it comes on a small square of paper, then say YES! and eat it. "This is your half of the sunshine acid... EAT IT!"

[AcesandEights]

I have to admit, I've always been too afraid to try acid. I know Salvia (evil shit, let me tell you) will stomp you into the ground and leave you begging for mercy, but you have to either A) smoke it, or B) chew a fair amount of the leaves. But, that stuff? I could imagine someone ripping out someone else's guts and not even realizing they did it afterwards. Spooky shit, so just say no. Unless it comes on a small square of paper, then say YES! and eat it.