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    Have to disagree there actually, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole thing and was amazed at how quickly it seemed to fly by. It didn't feel as long as it was to me.
    HELL YES.

    I was exactly the same. Half way through, I wished it was only a quarter way through, and at the end of the movie - right when Bruce Wayne's being all hated hero, I was gagging for MORE of the film.

    I absolutely loved it.

    I don't think though that the film would be mediocre without Ledger though, I really really don't. Yes Ledger was absolutely amazing - but so was Bale, so was Freeman and very importantly (cos he's been criminally overlooked) Eckhart was bloody great as Dent.

    Batman Begins didn't have Ledger and that was awesome.

    I thought the length of TDK was ideal. If it was shorter I bet a bunch of people would be complaining about not having enough time to get into all the characters, heck, I bet there's some people who bitch about the long running time (it's only 2.5 hours, come on...chillax ) and 'lack' of character development.

    As much as I enjoyed Spider-Man 3, TDK had none of the character development short comings that SM3 did.

    Anyway, that's my head-thoughts on it like, yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    Batman Begins didn't have Ledger and that was awesome.
    See, I think Batman Begins was a bit over-hyped. I did enjoy it but didn't feel inspired to watch it a second time and to me it wasn't a patch on Batman, Batman Returns or the excellent Batman: The Animated Series cartoons, whereas I think TDK can hold its head high with all of the above, and Ledger's interpretation of the Joker can certainly rival Jack Nicholson's.
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    See, I think Batman Begins was a bit over-hyped. I did enjoy it but didn't feel inspired to watch it a second time and to me it wasn't a patch on Batman, Batman Returns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    The opposite is often true though...

    Look at the LOTR, Aliens, and best example of all, The Abyss... The extended versions are excellent...
    Often? LOTR suffered from being already too long, the extended cuts only made it worse.

    The opposite is very rarely true. Some films need the time. But most films (or scripts) rather take too much time developing things that the audience have long since seen coming.

    I thought the length of TDK was ideal. If it was shorter I bet a bunch of people would be complaining about not having enough time to get into all the characters, heck, I bet there's some people who bitch about the long running time (it's only 2.5 hours, come on...chillax ) and 'lack' of character development.
    I don't buy that. They could have just rewritten the script to be slightly shorter. Like the Hong Kong trip. It was an action scene that took an unnecessary amount of time to get started, and in the end the sub plot didn't really lead anywhere. Sure, it got the main plot moving. But all that was actually NEEDED was for that guy to be captured. And it turned out he wasn't a major character after all. Why did he even have to GO to Hong Kong? Just have Batman snatch him in Chicago. Problem solved, and you've saved 15 minutes.
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    The Hong Kong trip was a device used to further ground this series in reality. They wanted to portray the batman as a global threat rather than a threat only in one, fictional city. I loved it.

    I think the pace, length, and editing are all superb. As others have stated, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time and never once thought to look at my watch. I was actually wanting more. Especially after Gordon's speach at the end. It gives me chills every time.

    As for the film failing without Ledger? Not at all, imo. Ledger was incredible to say the least, but the film still would have been stunning without him. Just as MZ said - why no love for Eckhart as Harvey Dent???? The story of TDK is really about Dent, not the Joker. And Eckhart was fantastic. Perfect character and story arc. The true story and shinning star of TDK...

    As for the extended DVD, I really hope it doesn't happen. Maybe some deleted scenes in the Special Features, but i'm about 99% sure that Nolan will not add any footage back into the film. He's never done it before and wouldn't do it again. The only time one of his films has been changed is the option to view Momento in chronological order. Which actually ruins the point of the film anyway, so I never understood it...
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    The Dark Knight just passed $500,000,000, but news from overseas is that it FLOPPED, yes FLOPPED, in Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post
    The Dark Knight just passed $500,000,000, but news from overseas is that it FLOPPED, yes FLOPPED, in Japan.
    Hrmm. And yet I bet everyone over there will flock to see Nicholas Cage and his wig in Bangkok Dangerous.

    Japan's loss...

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    I am sorry but Nic Cage hasn't made any really worth while movies in a long time. Not since National treasure 1. His last really good film where he showed his acting chops was Leaving Las vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post
    I am sorry but Nic Cage hasn't made any really worth while movies in a long time. Not since National treasure 1. His last really good film where he showed his acting chops was Leaving Las vegas.
    I agree.

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    I am wondering if it is the scripts hollywood is giving these guys or something, but the overall quality of films in the last 10 years has been ****.

    I could remember having a huge VHS collection, and being excited to head the video store to rent movies, in the last 2 years my rental trips have been cut by 90%. Besides the 4 movies I rented for the weekend, prior to that it had been 1-2 months since I last rented. 10 years ago I was amking trips to the video store 2-3 a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post
    I am wondering if it is the scripts hollywood is giving these guys or something, but the overall quality of films in the last 10 years has been ****.

    I could remember having a huge VHS collection, and being excited to head the video store to rent movies, in the last 2 years my rental trips have been cut by 90%. Besides the 4 movies I rented for the weekend, prior to that it had been 1-2 months since I last rented. 10 years ago I was amking trips to the video store 2-3 a week.
    I've found that the indie films are making for better rentals. Actually, with the "3 for $20" and "4 for $20" deals they have now at Blockbuster.....It's better just to buy them in bulk a week or so after they're released rather than rent them.

    But I agree....major films have been on the decline recently because audiences want mindless crap like "Saw 2,743" and "Disaster Movie"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post
    The Dark Knight just passed $500,000,000, but news from overseas is that it FLOPPED, yes FLOPPED, in Japan.
    Thats because it didn't have underage school girls covered in cum and being raped by tentacles in The Dark Knight.

    You can't please everyone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandrock74 View Post
    Thats because it didn't have underage school girls covered in cum and being raped by tentacles in The Dark Knight.

    You can't please everyone...


    Japan always goes its own way with these sort of things, but I can tell you something, it rocked arse here in the UK - and us Brits have taste.

    Dark Knight was f*ckin' awesome, end of.

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    Japan has to top america when it comes to ****ED up porn. They have some **** over there that just crosses the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman311 View Post
    The Hong Kong trip was a device used to further ground this series in reality. They wanted to portray the batman as a global threat rather than a threat only in one, fictional city. I loved it.
    There were of course numerous other issues they could have presented instead, but didn't. Why? Because you have to limit yourself somewhere. And the Hong Kong scene is one thing they should have limited themselves.

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