Day of the Dead 2008 - Dear God!

[AcesandEights]

I think Shaun did this quite well too, albeit in a different way, and with shamblers. Shaun's breakdown is more like a gradual decay... isolated incidents and attacks... reports of people being bitten... people talking about dishevelled junkies going nuts and killing people... before long the powers of the police and emergency services are exhausted and everyone is just sitting in their homes, peering out through their net curtains wondering what to do, waiting for some zombies to smash through the window. Damn, I just re-watched Hot Fuzz this weekend, now you'll have me popping in Shaun for yet another look

[DjfunkmasterG]

That sounds cool. I just get tired of every zombie film being basically the same. The two most kickass stretches of film that I can recall, imo, are the final 30 minutes of day and the first 10-15 minutes of dawn 04'. Imo, this is so because it's just complete chaos. The beginning of dawn o4' (and it's something everyone seems to mention, even detractors of the film,) shows the chaos that ensues in the streets. You almost never see that. We need much more of that type of epic scale stuff, imo. There's nothing wrong with social comentary, but ya gotta bring the goods as well. This is one thins I agree about. Which is why I like to do large scale even on my miniscule budget. If I could ever get the money I think I need to do the proper version of Deadlands it would be just the kind of scale you are looking for... Shoot me a PM with your email addy and I will send you the script for the next Deadlands flick so you can see what i am talking about.

[MinionZombie]

I think Shaun did this quite well too, albeit in a different way, and with shamblers. Shaun's breakdown is more like a gradual decay... isolated incidents and attacks... reports of people being bitten... people talking about dishevelled junkies going nuts and killing people... before long the powers of the police and emergency services are exhausted and everyone is just sitting in their homes, peering out through their net curtains wondering what to do, waiting for some zombies to smash through the window. And that's how is should be. ... Andy - I would say running is a complex piece of co-ordination. You're operating all four of your limbs, you're keeping your balance, and you're making quick decisions. Ever tried running when pretty damn drunk? Exactly - it's a mess - being dead would be a far worse hindrance.

[Yojimbo]

The beginning of dawn o4' (and it's something everyone seems to mention, even detractors of the film,) shows the chaos that ensues in the streets. You almost never see that. We need much more of that type of epic scale stuff, imo. I agree with Darth - I have been fiending for that sort of depiction of the outside world falling to shit at the beginning of the outbreak. I had hoped to see stuff like that in Diary, and while we got a few glimpses here and there, it was never to the scale or scope of the first 15 minutes of DAWN 04, which admittedly was a fine piece of work, runners notwithstanding (though the only real redeemable part of the remake IMO) I think Shaun did this quite well too, albeit in a different way, and with shamblers. Shaun's breakdown is more like a gradual decay... isolated incidents and attacks... reports of people being bitten... people talking about dishevelled junkies going nuts and killing people... before long the powers of the police and emergency services are exhausted and everyone is just sitting in their homes, peering out through their net curtains wondering what to do, waiting for some zombies to smash through the window. Agree with kraken that Shaun depicted the breakdown in a great way. Honestly, I know it was all humorous, but I felt a sense of dread while watching the build-up. It is based on the effects of Rigor mortis. When it sets in you start to slow down because everything cramps up, but you can become more agile after a while because it does eventually work itself out. True that rigor mortis gradually releases after a period of time and the joints loosen up to some degree. But folks always forget that this is, in a large part, a result of decomposition, and as such, the muscles and surrounding tissue begin to break down and lose elasticity. I would imagine, therefore, that even if rigor reduces, a reanimated corpse would not have the agility or strength that the person had in life. Given what I have seen in the DAWN remake and in DAY 08, it looks like somehow these zombies have superhuman abilities and strength which I find to be ridiculous. This is not meant as a diss on your zombies, DJ, since they are believable (even if they are fast) and they don't do silly things like have ultra strength and spiderman-like wall crawling abilities, and they do not shriek that velociraptor cry as they defy gravity.

[ProfessorChaos]

runners suck for the most part, but i still enjoyed the dawn remake (primarily for the same reasons everyone else did: the first 15 minutes are fucking amazing, johnny cash song and intro credits included) when i heard about the cast of the day remake, i was instantly turned off from the idea of seeing it....and then when i heard that they had zombies that crawl on the fucking walls, my reaction became: there's no way i'll ever in my life watch this fucking movie. and if i ever happen to encounter any of the shameless unoriginal fuckers involved, i'm going to give them an earful...and maybe even go to jail for assault. you guy's would chip in for my bail, right?

[Yojimbo]

and if i ever happen to encounter any of the shameless unoriginal fuckers involved, i'm going to give them an earful...and maybe even go to jail for assault. you guy's would chip in for my bail, right? Yeah, Professor, I would bail you out. But if I happened to be with you when this goes down, I would be inclined to jump into the fray and participate since these bastards deserve an old school beatdown, so I probably would have to get my wife to bail us BOTH out. It still would be worth going down for, IMO.

[darth los]

Yeah, Professor, I would bail you out. But if I happened to be with you when this goes down, I would be inclined to jump into the fray and participate since these bastards deserve an old school beatdown, so I probably would have to get my wife to bail us BOTH out. It still would be worth going down for, IMO. Well, there's a real good cure for that. When people stop paying for crap they'll stop making it. Otherwise what's their motivation? I got your back tho guys!!

[kidgloves]

You can't beat the original Dawn for the breakdown of society. The run up to entering the mall sets up the world situation brilliantly and the ensuing tv reports just heighten the chaos. What a superb piece of work it is. It's the breakdown of society that has always attracted me to these movies. WWZ is pure heaven for me.

[krakenslayer]

While Day 08 is bad, its nowhere near as bad as the name rape sequel to the original aka Craptagium. While I think Children is most likely the worst zombie film ever made, Craptagium is just so bad it is beyond redemption. I use to think a title change would help it, but now I doubt even that is possible. They are all terrible, hideous films, but are any of them really close to being the worst zombie movie? Not to derail the debate, but isn't a big part of the reason they are considered so bad simply that they are besmirching the names of some genuinely classic films. I mean, they're horrible, but there are Euro-ripoff movies like Zombie Lake, Garden of the Living Dead and Black Demons that are probably just as bad, and even below them you have sewage-wallowing non-films like Raiders of the Living Dead and Alien Dead that seem to represent the bottom of the barrel of cinema in general (although the spectrum just seems to go on and on, so I wouldn't be surprised if there's even worse stuff out there...). I know name-rape plays a big part in my hatred of the films you mentioned, though.

[MinionZombie]

I never consider Children of the Living Dead to be tied to GAR's flicks at all, despite the title and a couple of people involved ... it's just flat out terrible ... and here's 68 reasons why: Children of the Living Dead - The Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/03...ving-dead.html Craptagium I've not yet bothered to sit through - although I might actually do so, simply to write a new "bitch list" and tear it to shreds ... the bits that I have seen are fucking dreadful though. My main issue is these people have gotten their hands on big chunks of money, and they're squandered it with the foulest waste of film/tape they could have imagined. A sack of unoriginal garbage that is garnished with really stupid dialogue, crappy acting, pish editing/directing/writing and so on. I actually quite like Zombie Lake though - it knows it's hopping on the band wagon, but it's an original story (as far as such a thing can go) - I first saw bits of it in a compilation movie called "Zombiethon", then I got it on DVD for a fiver. It's just really funny, it has constant nudity thrown in, there's green coloured zombie Nazis in it - it's ideal euro-zombi-sleaze. Oasis of the Zombies is in a similar area to Zombie Lake, but not as good (or not as good at being silly), but I still got enjoyment out of it. There's bad-good and bad-bad ... Ghey08 and Yawn04 and Craptagium are quite simply bad-bad. The name-rape is just the moldy cherry atop the respective pyres of excrement. ... Speaking of pish cash-ins, "Zombie Nosh" (aka Flesheater - you know, that Bill Hinzman one) ... oh my god, it's so bad it's hilarious: Part One of the Zombie Nosh Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/06...itch-list.html Part Two of the Zombie Nosh Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/06...h-list_23.html

[LuxorCaw]

Scanning through netflix, I noticed this was one of those movies you could watch directly on your PC, so I thought, "what the hell." I was getting ready to go to bed, Ill put this on and fall asleep, let's just see how bad this really is. Well maybe it was my mindset, or whatever, but I didnt think it was all that bad, and Ill explain why. What I did, was I took my brain out and completely decided, before I watched it, that it wouldnt be anything like the original, or any of the slow moving zombie flicks that I love. I thought I would just try and enjoy it for the movie that is was, and try and find humor in all the other stupid shit that might come up. I also decided, as soon as the action started, that I would treat it as a 28 days later type virus flick, not a zombie movie. - First off, Mena Suvari. - I thought the setting was good, small town in the mountains being quarantined by the military, completely shut off, was interesting, and had potential. - The way the virus spread, how everyone was kinda sick then BAM! outbreak, was enjoyable, and quickly turned it into a horror-action flim. (super jumping, wall and celing climbing aside, which made me glad I took my brain out.) - It took them all of 5 minutes to realize they could shoot them in the head to kill them, that was kinda refreshing. One of my biggest pet peves is it seems in these movies is that none of these people have ever watched a zombie movie, and would always waste bullets until they finally realized to shoot them in the head. - Plus to build on that, since they were in the military, most of them were good shots. - And lastly, my favorite video game of all time is the Half-Life mod They Hunger. This movie had aspects of that game in it, the radio station, underground lab, backcountry setting, somewhat inteligent "zombies" at the end. Because of these connections that may have made me enjoy it tons more than the average person. - What I didn't like, Nick Cannon (wow he's bad), I didn't like Bud, after he changed (vegetarian, yeah whatever), "zombies" melting in seconds from the fire...ok. And the rest of the "bullshit" moments that are too long to list, but for a brainless, nothing else to watch, action flick, it wasn't horrible.

[triste realtà]

Speaking of pish cash-ins, "Zombie Nosh" (aka Flesheater - you know, that Bill Hinzman one) ... oh my gwahd, it's so bad it's hilarious: Part One of the Zombie Nosh Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/06...itch-list.html Part Two of the Zombie Nosh Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/06...h-list_23.html Not enough beer, not enough fags BTW, Susan is supposed to be a live-in kid watcher or something. If you bothered to watch the featurette, he explains that the stripper they hired to play the daughter had some sort of eye injury and was unavailable so they went with an older looking girl that did not look young enough to be the daughter. He even air typewrited when explaining that him and the other writer had to quickly change the script. Yes that's right it was written on paper.

[MoonSylver]

Part One of the Zombie Nosh Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/06...itch-list.html Part Two of the Zombie Nosh Bitch List: http://deadshed.blogspot.com/2008/06...h-list_23.html I freakin' love that movie. Way more than I should. It's an unashamed, z-grade flick, made as such, & totally self aware of it's status. No pretentiousness here. As such, it's a lot of fun IMO.

[MinionZombie]

Triste - my DVD has no featurette - it's the R2, you see. Moon - aye, it's one of those "so bad it's kinda good" movies, and it always makes me smile (with a laugh) when I think about it - same goes for the likes of Zombi 3, or Zombie Lake, or Oasis of the Zombies. The difference with Yawn04, or Ghey08, or even Craptagium, is they thought they were making something good in the first place...

[triste realtà]

You know, I thought of that after I posted. That really sucks cause the extra features really added to that dvd. Does yours have the zombie Hinzman pizza commercial? I got Shriek Show's of course, and the funny thing about them and Anchor Bay is (I think) they're based out of the UK and most of their stuff is NTSC R1, which may or may not be a big problem, but that's what you should have got, cheaply in the Zombie Pack 2. Jean jackets forever.