monroeville strategy.....

[acealive1]

ok so i've been to the mall before (october 2009) and i've noticed this. its WAY too tucked into the mountains and secluded for that biker gang to have found it. in the event of a real zed break, they probably would get no further than the primanti bros spot a quarter mile away theres just too much ground to cover coming from the front or back for them to get that close to the mall, at least in 2010. i just know for a fact, they'd be chopped liver before they rode to the part where you drive through that large mirrored building and come to the stone wall at the monroeville parking lot. thoughts?

[bassman]

"We've got to stay in the sticks!" The heroes knew it, so maybe the bikers did as well. Then as they were avoiding the larger cities they stumbled upon the mall.

[acealive1]

"We've got to stay in the sticks!" The heroes knew it, so maybe the bikers did as well. Then as they were avoiding the larger cities they stumbled upon the mall. very true,but have u taken the trip to monroeville from pittsburgh? it involves going up a mountain for about 25 minutes then another 10 minutes of small town driving and turning onto blind streets. its gotta be a small miracle they found it

[Publius]

very true,but have u taken the trip to monroeville from pittsburgh? it involves going up a mountain for about 25 minutes then another 10 minutes of small town driving and turning onto blind streets. its gotta be a small miracle they found it Why would anyone ever put a shopping mall in a location like that?

[acealive1]

Why would anyone ever put a shopping mall in a location like that? its pennsylvania. i swear they didnt bother to blast enough for it to be flat land. its all mountains.

[SRP76]

They'd find it easily enough. The helicopter can be seen (not to mention heard, in a dead world with no background noise) from several miles away when it's in flight (which it is every time Stephen takes Fran up for lessons). They just follow where it looks to be landing, and there you go. Look what we found.

[sandrock74]

They'd find it easily enough. The helicopter can be seen (not to mention heard, in a dead world with no background noise) from several miles away when it's in flight (which it is every time Stephen takes Fran up for lessons). They just follow where it looks to be landing, and there you go. Look what we found. That's always how I saw it as the scene was played out.

[Trin]

They coulda used a phone book. Yellow Pages -> Gunshops... Monroeville Mall here we come!!

[SymphonicX]

I thought they used googlemaps or something

[SRP76]

I thought they used googlemaps or something One more reason why we'd all croak if his happened. Without mapquest and GPS and whatnot, today's people can't find their way to their mailbox. A cross-state trek like our heroes had would be out of the question.

[SymphonicX]

lol I think we'd learn pretty quickly to drop the iphones - or at least, tell Romero that

[darth los]

That's always how I saw it as the scene was played out. It's the same principle when they were fortifying the house in night. How do you expect to make all that raquet and NOT draw attention. Speaking of which, the move to teach fran how to pilot the helicopter turned out to be a costly one. A decision which speaks to how lax they had gotten. They obviously had considered the possibility of looters as they were in the process of clearing out the mall. To make that much noise would attract survivors in the area, which they apparently they didn't feel was a threat. They were wrong.

[Mr.G]

Speaking of which, the move to teach fran how to pilot the helicopter turned out to be a costly one. A decision which speaks to how lax they had gotten. What other options were there? Fran made a good point. If Stephen died or became too ill/hurt to operate the helicopter...they would be screwed without having someone else know how to fly it. Hindsight is always 20/20.

[acealive1]

What other options were there? Fran made a good point. If Stephen died or became too ill/hurt to operate the helicopter...they would be screwed without having someone else know how to fly it. Hindsight is always 20/20. idk where they were looking from, but its harder than hell to see that roof let alone a chooper

[Trin]

It's the same principle when they were fortifying the house in night. How do you expect to make all that raquet and NOT draw attention. Speaking of which, the move to teach fran how to pilot the helicopter turned out to be a costly one. A decision which speaks to how lax they had gotten. They obviously had considered the possibility of looters as they were in the process of clearing out the mall. To make that much noise would attract survivors in the area, which they apparently they didn't feel was a threat. They were wrong. The helicopter did not attract the biker gang. They were coming either way. The first time they saw the helicopter they were within line of sight of the mall. They were already right there. I also don't buy the idea that "all that racket" would attract anything. Just how far does the sound of a truck or helicopter travel? Not very far in terms of the entire city being deserted. I can sit in my back yard and see the highway through the trees - yet I can't hear the trucks on it. Sound just doesn't travel that far. I don't buy that the helicopter was a liability, and Fran knowing how to fly it was a major asset considering how impulsive Stephen turned out to be. Even if Stephen and Roger had lived, it still made sense to have multiple pilots if they were going to make a long haul toward anywhere. The major draw of the mall was the gun shop. We often criticize the Dawn crew for sitting idle inside the mall when we think they should be out scouting the surroundings for supplies. The biker gang probably picked up a map and a yellow pages and was hitting every place around for guns, ammo, and other things. They probably would've gone 25 or even 50 miles out of their way to hit the mall given the gun shop within. The only thing the Dawn crew really did wrong was attack the bikers. They built a wall to fool intruders and then didn't use it when the time came. Had they stuck to their plan Stephen would've lived. They probably would've left then anyway, since we know they were planning to, but it would've been intact and on their terms.