A very small DOTD goof...

[MikePizzoff]

I've never seen anyone mention this. I just caught it tonight... Roger is unable to walk so he gets carted around, as everyone very well knows. Well, in the shot in which they're standing out front of Penney's and Peter does the whole "no more room..." thing, take a look at Roger's sock on his injured leg; it's dirty as if he's been walking around on it! Just a little tiny thing that I'm sure some of you will appreciate. Others may flame.

[bassman]

I noticed this once, as well. I just figured that maybe he limped around while holding onto Peter or Flyboy's shoulders. Specifically, up the stairs to the hideout. Wait a minute.......was the hallway already closed and were they using the ladder when Roger was still around?

[dmbfanintn]

I noticed this once, as well. I just figured that maybe he limped around while holding onto Peter or Flyboy's shoulders. Specifically, up the stairs to the hideout. Wait a minute.......was the hallway already closed and were they using the ladder when Roger was still around? Also, Take a look at the apartment furniture while they are doing the wall. Then later, the furniture has been upgraded. Nice couches and stuff. If you remember, when Peter shot Roger, the hideaway had boxes and cheap tablks to sit in. This was after the wall was built. Then later whne they are playing cards, the apartment is G'd up! How did they get all that furniture up through the little hole in the ceiling tile?

[Adrenochrome]

How did they get all that furniture up through the little hole in the ceiling tile? as many times as I've seen this flick (100's) I've never bothered to question that!

[MikePizzoff]

Also, Take a look at the apartment furniture while they are doing the wall. Then later, the furniture has been upgraded. Nice couches and stuff. If you remember, when Peter shot Roger, the hideaway had boxes and cheap tablks to sit in. This was after the wall was built. Then later whne they are playing cards, the apartment is G'd up! How did they get all that furniture up through the little hole in the ceiling tile? I didn't notice that for about the first 8 or 9 years of watching Dawn. Once I did, I got disappointed and decided it would be best to just block that out of my head.

[Philly_SWAT]

Also, Take a look at the apartment furniture while they are doing the wall. Then later, the furniture has been upgraded. Nice couches and stuff. If you remember, when Peter shot Roger, the hideaway had boxes and cheap tablks to sit in. This was after the wall was built. Then later whne they are playing cards, the apartment is G'd up! How did they get all that furniture up through the little hole in the ceiling tile? I think that we see the furniture in the apartment, then OFFSCREEN they bring new furniture upstairs before they build the wall, then they build the wall, then we see them upstairs with upgraded furniture. Peter states something about "bringing the big stuff" upstairs before making the wall.

[radiokill]

I think that we see the furniture in the apartment, then OFFSCREEN they bring new furniture upstairs before they build the wall, then they build the wall, then we see them upstairs with upgraded furniture. Peter states something about "bringing the big stuff" upstairs before making the wall. that's what I thought, too

[dmbfanintn]

I think that we see the furniture in the apartment, then OFFSCREEN they bring new furniture upstairs before they build the wall, then they build the wall, then we see them upstairs with upgraded furniture. Peter states something about "bringing the big stuff" upstairs before making the wall. Nope, watch again! They are shown building and painting the wall (you don't paint an unfinished wall) before Peter shoots Roger (When Dr Rousch is giving the "down to the line" speach). When he shoots Roger, look at the furniture in the apartment (When Fran says "it's really all over isn't it"), it's the old stuff. Later, when they are playing cards, the stuff is all updated. It think you are right about Peter's comments. I he only says it in the Cannes Cut, or maybe it is only in the script, I can't remember. In the theatrical, all he says is, "We'll put up a wall here, that way we can still get to the plumbing" But I KNOW for a fact, cause this has always bugged me about the film, that the newer furniture comes up AFTER the wall is completed! Watch it again, you will see.

[radiokill]

Nope, watch again! They are shown building and painting the wall (you don't paint an unfinished wall) before Peter shoots Roger (When Dr Rousch is giving the "down to the line" speach). When he shoots Roger, look at the furniture in the apartment (When Fran says "it's really all over isn't it"), it's the old stuff. Later, when they are playing cards, the stuff is all updated. It think you are right about Peter's comments. I he only says it in the Cannes Cut, or maybe it is only in the script, I can't remember. In the theatrical, all he says is, "We'll put up a wall here, that way we can still get to the plumbing" But I KNOW for a fact, cause this has always bugged me about the film, that the newer furniture comes up AFTER the wall is completed! Watch it again, you will see. I actually don't know what version I have....It's an older VHS. I'll have to check out because I remember the "big stuff" remark

[bassman]

If i'm not mistaken, the wall was built of 2x4's between walls in a concrete hallway. The actual wall that's attached to the 2x4's seems rather flimsy, when Flyboy and the others break through. Perhaps the entire section could have been removable somehow? It's a stretch, I know.

[dmbfanintn]

If i'm not mistaken, the wall was built of 2x4's between walls in a concrete hallway. The actual wall that's attached to the 2x4's seems rather flimsy, when Flyboy and the others break through. Perhaps the entire section could have been removable somehow? It's a stretch, I know. On hinges, yeah, that's it, hinges!

[Marie]

If i'm not mistaken, the wall was built of 2x4's between walls in a concrete hallway. The actual wall that's attached to the 2x4's seems rather flimsy, when Flyboy and the others break through. Perhaps the entire section could have been removable somehow? It's a stretch, I know. On hinges, yeah, that's it, hinges! Naaa, that wall was too flimsy for hinges. A few times opening and closing and it would crumble. Remember, it was made to look like a wall (All the way to the floor) and was made of 2"x4"s and painted cardboard it looks like. You'd have to put a space at the bottom and maybe some wheels or ball berings to support it, which would ruin the illusion that it's a wall. M_

[dmbfanintn]

Naaa, that wall was too flimsy for hinges. A few times opening and closing and it would crumble. Remember, it was made to look like a wall (All the way to the floor) and was made of 2"x4"s and painted cardboard it looks like. You'd have to put a space at the bottom and maybe some wheels or ball berings to support it, which would ruin the illusion that it's a wall. M_ I was joking Marie...

[bassman]

I wasn't suggesting hinges. Just that maybe they could have pulled the wall out, taken up the furniture, and then just as easily put the wall back into place. .....Or it could just be a f*ck up.

[Philly_SWAT]

If i'm not mistaken, the wall was built of 2x4's between walls in a concrete hallway. The actual wall that's attached to the 2x4's seems rather flimsy, when Flyboy and the others break through. Perhaps the entire section could have been removable somehow? It's a stretch, I know. Actually, I think that is was only 2x2's, not 2x4's, which would obviously be less secure. The wall attached to the 2x2's is in fact very filmsy, looks like just some panleing, not even a sheet of plywood. We never see the hardware store/section where they get the wood from, or if they had to use wood that was in other stores and tear it down there and bring to the hallway. But they had a skill saw, the 2x2's looked new, they appeared to have sawhorses, (unless they just made some), so it seems as if there would have been some plywood, or something stronger than the paneling they use in the mall somewhere, even if had to tear down walls somewhere else in the mall. So it seems that obviously they were building the wall for looks only, not for protecting. They just wanted it to look like there was no door there, so it that was your only goal, it wouldnt matter how "strong" it was or not. But it does seem very weird that they wouldnt want it for protection as well. I mean, since you are building a wall anyway, why not make it as strong as possible, instead of making it for looks only? Its not like they had to be at work soon and had to work fast. Perhaps they did make it flimsy on purpose in order to take it down if needed, and if that is the case, then perhaps they did that in order to bring up more furniture later. Another though just occured to me as I was typing that. It could be highly possible (I mean, I would do it if I thought of it at the time) that they brought a whole bunch of furniture, and other stuff, thru the door before building the wall. The way it look in the movie, the boiler room was very big, the hallway was very long, there was another room there where the bathrooms were, so there was a lot of space available. They could have put a ton of furniture there, more than would even fit upstairs, just so they would have access to it later, months (or years) after they built the wall. Plus, once the wall was up, they wouldnt need to go down that way anyway, so a bunch of furniture and stuff wouldnt be in the way or anything. I mean, their main purpose in building the wall was to camoflague it so "looters" wouldnt find the hallway/stairway/hideout. So you would want to build the wall as soon as possible, as you would have no way to know when looters would break in. So bringing the new couch and stuff upstairs would not be as important as building the wall, so it would only make sense to bring the couch thru the doorway, set it down, then build the wall, then bring the couch upstairs. This easily and believably explains why we may see new furniture upstairs after they built the wall.